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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $26.52 (106.1 bb)
BB: $31.25 (125 bb)
UTG: $42.90 (171.6 bb)
MP: $31.37 (125.5 bb)
CO: $39 (156 bb)
BTN: $177.41 (709.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♠ Q♠
UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BB folds, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25) 6♥ 4♣ Q♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.65, UTG calls $1.65

Turn: ($8.55) 7♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.69, UTG raises to $5.63, Hero calls $2.94

River: ($19.81) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks[/hand_history][/converted_hand]


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

And the reasons for 3b pre, for calling the turn raise are?....


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

Because of your sizing, you got 1 street of value from this ... which is okish, but very probably u can get 2 streets.

I dislike your sizings because small bets can make people raise as a bluff and you are getting into leveling games.
and he did in fact raise turn, and if he shoves river i have to snap call there because of the inducing sizings.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Would have called pre, would have fold turn.
Would have bet flop at least 1/2 psb and turn 30-40% psb.
As played, river is xf


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Without info on villain I prefer calling pre flop. Turn is a fold.
As played give up on the river.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I would call preflop. Turn is definitely a fold.


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

lots of people say it is a standard call, yet for me it is a standard 3b
This means you guys insist too much on preflop when it can actually go either way. Either option is good, i prefer 3b and being the aggressor


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Truth is neither option is very profitableX( (I am not folding but I like very much to win really big pots.)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would play mixed strategy with KQs in these positions. This is easily dominated hand and could lead to big losses. Still I'm not folding with this. I prefer calling because 1. it is suited 2. we have no info if villain opens tight or loose and how he reacts to 3bets.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

It's standart 3b/F 4 me:) Postflop I attemted for 2x thin value with 1/3 sizings vs UTG vs TT, JJ mostly, on the turn I cannot fold vs this weird x/minR, but on the river I was on X/F mode

[converted_hand]
River: ($19.81) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

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Results: $19.81 pot ($0.89 rake)
Final Board: 6♥ 4♣ Q♦ 7♦ 8♦
Hero showed K♠ Q♠ and lost (-$9.78 net)
UTG showed 8♥ 8♠ and won $18.92 ($9.14 net)

[/hand_history][/converted_hand]


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vuciitis
Joined: 19.02.2011

interesting that none of the "big speakers" comented on the hand after OP posted results :facepalm:

boys, learn from MR bonecore, he is a wise guy! ;)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I said earlier that I would fold OTT and as played I would give up OTR.
We are playing microstakes against unknown. It is true that hero's bet size might induce villain to raise as a bluff but still calling his raise would require some info on villain. Against unknown it is better to fold in this kind of spots, I think. The fact that villain in this case had a bluff OTT doesn't change my opinion.

So when everything was already said, there is nothing left to comment even when hero posts result. Changing my opinion after that would be result oriented thinking.


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