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djchals
Joined: 09.01.2012

is better shove it? I think my hand is very weak. I have an advantage being chipleader not want to lose if would calling.
PokerStars - €9.54+€0.46|40/80 Ante 8 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 20 BB
BB: 12.21 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 22.64, 3Bet Preflop: 23.53, Hands: 58)
BTN: 5.29 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)

3 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.8 BB) Hero has J♦ 8♣

fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BB raises to 12.11 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 4.3 BB


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

villian looks quite aggro so I would shove here to prevent him 3bet shoving over your open raise
He should be calling very tight here on the bubble with the other player on the short stack


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

In this particle spot it’s also good to know if the BB is ICM aware, but I expect on the 10 euro stakes most players will do that. Otherwise I would fold here instead of pushing.

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SDK1987


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

Originally posted by SDK1987
In this particle spot it’s also good to know if the BB is ICM aware, but I expect on the 10 euro stakes most players will do that. Otherwise I would fold here instead of pushing.

You would fold pre? or do you mean you fold after he shoves?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Fold right away. It’s for me a push/fold spot for 12bb effective.


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

Would you not shove on the bubble?
Even if he isnt completely aware of ICM people do tightened up on the bubble particularly when there is a shorter stack than them.
ICMizer says any two is profitable here, if you don't shove any two what range would you shove?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

That depends on villain, but indeed any 2 if he’s ICM familiar and without this I would push at least 22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q6s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,87s,76s,65s,54s,43s,A2o+,K6o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o.


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TomClassy
Joined: 06.05.2015

I would also consider that fact that we have a super aggro BB and a very nitty BTN who is very likely to be pushed by the BB hardly in the future so BB most likely knows it and tighten up his calling range because of that fact (ofc if he keeps that in mind) and vice versa BTN will not be stealing adequately because he is very tight hismself and a loose and aggro BB. I would not shove here only if I saw some crazy calls from the BB when there had to be an easy fold.


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