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Do we believe him?

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Catonthemat
Joined: 01.08.2016

Villian had been playing very loose and had lost quiet a few pots. I think my flop bet isn't ideal but was trying to thin the herd a little. Question is do we believe him on the river?

Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $1.03 (51.5 bb)
BB: $0.89 (44.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $2 (100 bb)
MP: $1.93 (96.5 bb)
CO: $0.89 (44.5 bb)
BTN: $1.16 (58 bb) Only 30 hands but 77/30

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9♥: 9♦:
Hero raises to $0.08, MP calls $0.08, CO folds, BTN calls $0.08, SB folds, BB calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.33) 7♦: 7♣: K♣: (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.06, MP folds, BTN calls $0.06, BB calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.51) 8♣: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.51) 6♥: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.49, BB folds,

Spoiler

Hero calls $0.49

Results: $1.49 pot ($0.07 rake)
Final Board: 7♦: 7♣: K♣: 8♣: 6♥:
BB mucked and lost (-$0.14 net)
Hero showed 9♥: 9♦: and won $1.42 ($0.79 net)
BTN showed 5♠: A♦: and lost (-$0.63 net)

I didn't believe him. A king or flush would have bet at some point, or raised my small flop bet as would a 7. My thoughts anyway.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Well, I think that we can call if we have read - if u say he is aggressive and loose then we can call. Anyway to unknown player I would fold. And yes I think that your flop bet is same as checking.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

he did not say that oponent is agresive, so I like folding river. It multiway pot, draws completed, should often be strong.

Edit:
Just noticed stats 77/30

so there is a chance that he is agro, so call maybe would not be bad, but still he can be postflop more passive and still 4way and draws completed, so I still like folding more vs this sizing.


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Mandator
Joined: 02.02.2008

against a whale I think we can bluff catch here OTR, against a different and tighter opponent I would x/f


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Catonthemat
Joined: 01.08.2016

Cheers for the feedback. Like you say normally I wouldn't have gotten that far, but I think with the read it worked ok. Would have felt like a wally if it was wrong though :f_confused:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

No need to bluffcatch if you do not have observation that he x flop and turn and pot bluffs river.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would have bet flop bigger.


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

I bet more flop for protection/collect dad money, or i check flop for bluff catcher bu, as played without clubs in hand is a sick call: oppo can overplay kx

Your feeling vs villain is fundamental:
"Villian had been playing very loose and had lost quiet a few pots"
I think that in multhway he doesnt call random, i mistake ;) nh


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Bet 2/3 otf and give up


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

On the flop you do not bet less than half pot (unless Sit and Go or Tournament) otherwise you give great odds to your opponents to call you. So your bet is ineffective here, you might as well check.

At micro stakes, call river bets more (if you are a good player, tight). Not here, in general.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

That 18% flop bet serves no purpose. River bet too big to call. You'll not have 50% success rate, especially 3-ways.


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