Is flopping bottom two pairs ever a good thing?

Flop and turn seems good to me, that turn raise was so small and MP2 is a fish. And yes, bottom two is better than say TPTK. Why do you donk the river though?

I don't understand that river donk.
Flopping 2 pair is good, even if it is bottom 2. But there is one general rule: don't go broke on a limped pot. Anyone can have anything.

OP: Question stands differently: What range are you giving villain after he called the flop and what range are you giving him after he raised you OTT?

BTW: I would bet bigger OTT.

I think you should check OTR as villain raised OTT. Probably c/c the river. As played don´t 3 bet OTR.

I would not lead the river either; better x/c so you let him bluff some hands. By leading you make fold hand you beat and get call/raise by better hand.
The rest of the hand seems standard to me.

Cheerz ladz

As others have said, donking the river makes no sense .You could even hero fold the river if he bets very big , but checking/calling/folding the river is the line to take.

You don't beat anything he value raised the turn with imo. The shove on the river after your donk bet is raised, is also a massive overplay.

When I saw the the title of the thread I was 99% sure it would be a limped pot and it was. In general try not to go broke in an unraised pot unless you know the villain very well. I also don't like the river donk as others have mentioned, so I'd check-call or check-fold depending on the bet size.

Originally posted by chilliyen
...Should I have got away from it?

Yes. You are fried already when he raises on the turn. That A would be scary for him too if he is naked, and you have projected strength by betting big into 3 players on the flop (YOU aren't bluffing), so he isn't bluffing.

Another thing for op to think about here is would op raise the turn with say Ax clubs ? the answer is hopefully no , so if those hands call the turn what hands do we expect to raise . There are maybe 3 or 4 combos of decent bluffs like KQ clubs Kt clubs , the rest is a value raise.

Ive always viewed bottom 2 pair in a similar way as i would view tptk when facing lots of aggression . I think the value of the hands is probably very similar, although 2 pair does look far stronger, it can be overvalued in a'lot of spots.