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samni
Joined: 06.08.2009

No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars9 Players
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$20+$20+$4
Stacks:
UTG Xserega8X (24,236) 40bb
UTG+1 wvwMasteRwvw (16,778) 28bb
MP1 slw147 (28,819) 48bb
MP2 djangonikko (22,366) 37bb
MP3 serginho14 (24,065) 40bb
CO swe11 (16,673) 28bb
BTN GSchleder10 (6,878) 11bb
SB ross_654 (5,988) 10bb
BB Hero (31,891) 53bbBlinds: 300/600 Ante 90
Pre-Flop: (1,710, 9 players) Hero is BB J♣: J♦:

2 folds, slw147 raises to 1,200, djangonikko raises to 3,000, 4 folds, Hero ???,

Both openraiser and 3better are fish. I'd like to have some opinions and don't forget the why-part!


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

If this is a super KO, I would just shove, especially vs fish. You have them covered, sometimes fliping, rarely in an awesome shape but with 2 potential KOs even 20% equity isnt bad.
Im interested alot in what others think! :)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I think it’s also depends what kind of fishy players we are dealing with. If the 3better is a loose passive player that almost never 3bet it’s better to fold than against a maniac for example.

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SDK1987


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samni
Joined: 06.08.2009

It's very easy to put this hand into a vacuum. Obviously if he NEVER 3bets over a gazillion hands, he has AA or KK here. But WHAT would you do given this spot? I just moved to this table and scoped both players and they are both losing over a pretty big sample. Thats all the info I can get at that point :)


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Lets say you are behind the 3bettor. The good thing is that the open raiser is abit deeper so if it goes 3-way and you flip vs him even if you lose against the 3bettor you can snipe the other guy. Shouldnt really make that big of a difference but if they are both fishy they probably stackoff lighter. Im normally nitty against 3bets but I cant fold here.

Try editing your post with http://www.handconverter.com/ so the hand is a little clearer :f_drink:


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

If its the first hand against them I think I prefer to just call & then you can safely fold if you get 4 or 5bet and only lose 5BB but also get to see a flop with a decent hand

Second to that, I would shove as its a KO & you cover them both


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