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¡Hey! I'm new in this forum so if a commit any mistakes while posting please feel free to correct me.

Well, first of all, I play microstakes, I'm kind of newbie, but recently I wanted to take this seriously so I'm asking anyone for an advice

In 1,000 hands i have lost 4.28 dollars as you can see...

I know that is not too much money but where I live you can pay a lunch with that quantity of money (also, I'm a student, so I can't allow myself to lose anything more than my bankroll)

I just play one table at the time cause I wanna be sure to be wining before anything, also, many people say that you need a minimum of 10,000 hands to tell if someone is a Loose or Wining player, but as I mentioned, playing that quantity of hand would take me a lot of time

Everytime I earn some bucks during a lot of hand, I lose them in just a blink of an eye, here are some of my biggest losses:

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Thanks a lot to anyone who can respond me :)


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Joined: 12.11.2008

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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Hi VisceralRam,

1k hand sample is really really small and that 10k would be absolute minimum to start analyzing your stats. You can easily run bad or good for even periods of 10k hands so I would say even 100k hand sample would be recommended before even thinking if you are a winning or a losing player. I know it seems impossible right now with your volume but you don't have to worry, when you get a little bit better you can start playing more tables :)

From those stats I see following:
You open raise from SB (steal BB's blind) very little. This will cost you money. Also your 3bet range seems to be value only so you could start 3betting more bluffs and you can start squeezing also. This sample size is very very unreliable though, you have only around 70 hands per position and that can't give any kind of a clue about your true 3bet %. I also suggest you study it a little bit before starting to do so. If you just start 3betting more but with wrong hands vs wrong players it won't be good.

Let's take a look at those hands:
Hand 1
SB donks multiway on a dryish flop so he might be strong. However he might have some draws and BB could also and I'm not sure you want to play this multiway, so I guess raising was not bad. But when SB 3bets you on the flop it means they almost always have the goods so just fold there. Now you overplayed this hand.

Hand 2
I think it is kind of the same thing with hand 2. I don't usually raise those donks with only overpairs because villain might have a strong range. When he donks turn after calling your raise OTF it looks like he is inducing to just shove so he might have you beat. I would just call turn. Now it looks like your villain was a fish and you got it in as a favorite. River was just a cooler.

Hand 3
Same thing.

Hand 4
Bet check bet line from villain can be very strong. It might be a bluff. It would be very hard for me to fold there but I would just call. Now you gave villain extra 50bb.

Hand 5
I definitely would not raise flop with TPGK especially against UTG. So this one is overplayed too.

I also noticed you don't play with 100bb stack. If your plan is to use mid stack strategy or your bankroll is too small, it is ok. Otherwise use auto top up to 100bb :)
If you have any more difficult hands I suggest you post them on our hand discussion board.


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smarnijss
Joined: 05.02.2009

ok first you need to have some kind of plan pre-flop and by plan i mean opening range from each position. Also you don't need to go overboard with 3bets especially in micro limits, cause the most money you're going to win on flop,turn,river by outplaying opponents and not by 3bet bluffing or other shenanigans, so 3bet with value hands, squeez with value hands and that's it, at least for now. I can easily tell that your opening range sucks from each position, so don't be afraid to open more, for example, if you would play 9max than it would be understandable but as it's 6max you need to be more aggresive ok i will give my ranges: UTG 12%, MP 16%, CO 30, BT 67%, SB 65%, i know that you're afraid to lose money and afraid to play more hands cause you're new to this game, but remember that you play poker to win money not to lose it, so you need to put more pressure on opponents.

2. hand with KK: don't raise just call, cause first you need to ask yourself which hands do i beat, and you only have one pair, so i think just calling is ok, if the op bets on turn, call, if he checks than bet large and fold to push, on river if the op continues to bet than just fold cause at that point there arent many hands that you beat, remember you only have one pair, so be passive and give up if the op shows too much aggresion.

3.JJ: just caaaaaaaaaalllllllll, again you only have one pair, so just call the flop,turn and if he continues to bet on river just fold, cause these guys especially in micros don't bet 3 streets in the row with trash hands, so if he bets flop,turn and river than you know that he has at least 2pairs.

4.9Ts, if you see flush, higher street etc. on river and the op bets, just call, i understand that you have a monster hand on the river and want to win as much as you can but if the guy is betting on river when there's a possible flush, than just call.

5.AQ: don't raise, just call till river and if he continues to bet just fold, again you only have one pair, so don't go crazy with.


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Dont think about it like "I could have bought a dinner with the money I lost".
And if you need that money for dinner, you shouldnt be playing :f_tongue:
There are tons of Videos here for NL2 and NL5, just watch them to see some standart lines.

Really important:
Listen to what they are saying in the video!!!
If you dont understand it, listen to it again until you do!!!

The more you focus, the faster your results will be :f_thumbsup:


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

That was a good tip above ^^
I think you should indeed separate yourself from your poker money and not think it is yours. Downswings will happen and you shouldn't tilt or go bankrupt because of that.

I'm currently running 1200bb under EV in 50k hands. That would be 24$ in NL2 just because of bad luck in all-in situations. That doesn't count the times where I have bet with a good hand but villain hits a miracle card OTR.

Think about it like this: You have invested your money in poker. The value of your investment will go up and down and it is normal. You can't use the money to buy dinners because it is invested somewhere. Don't invest any money if you can't afford it.

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Tobman78
Joined: 27.03.2006

Just a few comments to the hands, la55i has said already good stuff.
I don't know if you've watched/read videos about how to play overpairs on the flop.
Mostly it's recommend to play it as TP. I would nearly always tend to the tighter side if it's...

1) I think it depends on the limit, but with your raise you'll likely get nobody to throw his hand away.
And that's the reason to raise here or?
(Raising is maybe possible but not my style, perhaps for action later and vs semi tight guys to end the hand, if they fold a weak J, any 7, a weak draw...)
The J will not fold if he's loose and the flush draw will also likely stay in the hand for 18BB.
So I tend to just call and watch the action on the next street.
Maybe calling again or after 2 checks betting to get a free SD on river.
Vs a big river bet you should fold. Nearly always beaten.

2) I see no reason to raise the flop.
If you've stats and know he does not like to fold TPs - anything (semi Callingstation) you may raise to build the pot.
I think after your turn bet you would be pot committed and so he if he's not scared to death if the flush comes on river.
Easier play for you would be just to call the flop and turn bet.
Keep the pot small as your hand is not very strong. It just beats a some % of his range.
Don't raise the hands you beat out of the hand.
Any Q, Any T, Draws. You'll see the action coming on the next streets.
He'll show you how strong he really is.
If he checks the turn, just bet ~ 1/2 pot to get money from all the hands above. The T will likely fold and bet the river perhaps 1/3.

3) ~26% vs his hand
His big bet measn TP+, Draw, Bluff (Depending on player type/history)
Raising here eliminates all the hands you beat. As will fold if he's no calling station.
And you play only vs hands QQ+, 2pair+, Combodraws 40%+ vs you.

4) Raising on the river with less than K high heart is suicide.
It's something you'll learn from articles and videos.
If you've not nearly the nuts don't raise.
If he had only 9 high flush your opp. may have foldet vs your all-in raise.
If this was your reason to shove the river and you've a reason based on stats/reads to do so the play is ok.

Even the call on the flop is questionable if you're just playing to hit your hand as you're drawing to a straight and the flush draw is out there.
Betting the turn and if the flush does not complete betting the river may get your opp. to fold a weak K.

5) Way ahead, way behind sit. on the flop.
Either he has nothing (middle pair), JJ-KK, or Ak, AJ, AT.
UTG and UTG+1 ranges are relatively tight. (+ player stats)
So call the flop to evaluate on turn.
He may bet all the way with a bluff (if draw on flop), any A with good kicker or 2pair+.
Through your raise only AK+ stays in the hand.
Is that what you want?
Your opp. checks the turn to keep the pot small, cause his hand is only TP (only up to 2 pot bets are expetable, if the pot gets much bigger one of the players may have 2pair+)
Good play on the river.

Read articles, watch videos, visit some coachings and you'll learn and move forward.
Your opponents are also thinking and mostly tighter than you think. (Just something you'll learn... Always have a reason to bet or check/fold.)
Above just some thoughts.
(Just read smarnijss post after writing my post...),

Wish you Success and Fun here in the forum.


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I didn't expect so many answers at this small amount of time, I will try to be more careful with my all-ins and re-raises.
A lot of people recommended me to read "Crushing the Micro Stakes" by BlackRain79, so i'm basing my main strategy from there (even if I don't apply it correctly :f_tongue: ). I also read articles and watch videos, but with so many websites and sources of information... I'm kind of a mess...
¡Anyway, thanks to everybody!


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