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[Closed] 5$ SnG AKo reraised, push?

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 5+0.50 Tournament, 60/120 Blinds (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

BB (t1821)
UTG (t1975)
MP1 (t1875)
MP2 (t2280)
CO (t2070)
Hero (Button) (t1555)
SB (t1924)

Hero's M: 8.64

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K
4 folds, Hero raises to t360, SB raises to t1924 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls t1195 (All-In)

Flop: (t3230) 9, A, 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t3230) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t3230) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t3230


8 replies
NickParkes
Joined: 07.07.2008

I generally just shove preflop... as played, snapcall...


LuborC
Joined: 20.04.2008

I wouldn't just shove this. Raising gives you the opportunity to also raise weaker hands and steal the blinds. With blinds 120/60 I only raise to 2,5BB so 300 here which makes stealing cheaper.
Once somebody pushes you it's an easy call with AK IMO.


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

I openshove for maximum folding equity.

@luborc: I never raise here, always push or fold. Your argument makes sense, but I don't really like raising with 13BB because of the impossible postflop decisions ^^


LuborC
Joined: 20.04.2008

Originally posted by viewer88
I openshove for maximum folding equity.

@luborc: I never raise here, always push or fold. Your argument makes sense, but I don't really like raising with 13BB because of the impossible postflop decisions ^^

I kind of see what you're saying but the postflop play is not so complicated IMO. You just c-bet a little over half the pot which looks really scarry to the villain because seems like you commit yourself and only don't push because you actually want him to call. You can get a lot of hands to fold like this IMO. You are not commited, though. You have only 2 overcards which should improve 1 in 4-5 times if I'm right so can still fold if he pushes you.

If this does not work out you are left with around 7 BB which is still not a desperatelly short stack. People on my limit cannot really play very well against a shortstack they don't understand the odds very well and are able to make really incredible folds when they are getting odds like 10 to 1 or something or they call you with a worse hand when they should not call and such..


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

The problem with openraising is that you will often get re-pushed by hands you're flipping against, so it would have been better if they simply folded.

Also, if villain coldcalls your raise (donkplay, but it happens all the time) you will often not get paid of by worse hands if you hit.


LuborC
Joined: 20.04.2008

This makes sense, too. We'll see what Chenny thinks once he gets to evaluate this..


NickParkes
Joined: 07.07.2008

If you're going to raise you have to raise 3 BB... 2.5BB gives villain good odds to call... then post-flop if you c-bet you're committed to going broke...

I prefer to maximise my fold equity with AK because even though you have a premium hand you are still vulnerable to villain trying to resteal you as often you're flipping or he has 2 live cards... I prefer to get the chips in and if he calls, he calls....


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Originally posted by LuborC
I wouldn't just shove this. Raising gives you the opportunity to also raise weaker hands and steal the blinds. With blinds 120/60 I only raise to 2,5BB so 300 here which makes stealing cheaper.
Once somebody pushes you it's an easy call with AK IMO.

This. Also I want to be repushed, because while a good deal of the time we are flipping, a larger part of the time we crush our opponents' AQ AJ AT. And while AQ would snap off a call, AJ and AT would probably only push over a raise.

But if you do raise, raise to 2.5BB otherwise you are indeed committed after cbetting. So either shove vs loose opponents, or raise t2.5 against decent or tight opponents