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QQ keeping pot small, bluffing A on turn against fish

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rvnikauj
Joined: 03.02.2017

PokerStars - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 103 BB (VPIP: 26.80, PFR: 14.43, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 199)
CO: 266.5 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BTN: 88 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 127 BB (VPIP: 30.36, PFR: 22.41, 3Bet Preflop: 9.44, Hands: 599)
Hero (UTG): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ Q♣

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 9♦ 2♠ J♥
Hero bets 4.5 BB, CO raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (25.5 BB, 2 players) A♠
Hero bets 12.5 BB, CO calls 12.5 BB

River: (50.5 BB, 2 players) 2♥
Hero checks, CO checks

Spoiler

Hero shows Q♥ Q♣ (Two Pair, Queens and Twos)
(Pre 81%, Flop 76%, Turn 89%)
CO mucks J♦ 8♦ (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos)
(Pre 19%, Flop 24%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 48.5 BB


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

turn is x/c and river is x/c, leave him continue bluffing.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Looks ok. I guess you are donking the turn to make his bluffs fold now and also as a block bet. I would bet a bit smaller than 1/2 but otherwise it seems ok imo.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by VaskataBuci
turn is x/c and river is x/c, leave him continue bluffing.

I can agree with checking turn but if he bets over half pot I'm not sure if we will make much money by calling.
And if we do check call OTT I think we can't do it again OTR with our hand.
We cant call a raise OTR and then two bets with less than top pair? The flop wasn't very drawy so I don't see so many bluffs.


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kr0daking
Joined: 26.05.2011

Well I would jam it in on the flop tbh.
If you know he is a fish just push it.
He'll call with xj hands , OESD
It's probably not the optimal play for higher limits , but on NL2 it works.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

You don't need to show us results, makes result - oriented quite distinctly


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not agree with the turn bet.
Just xc and see the river.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Do not forget to make a note on this one.


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Oly0909
Joined: 08.06.2008

Why would you bluff A on turn?
Turn - Check/call:
- if he's bluffing let him bluff again
- if he has JX or 9X don't scare him away, let him valuebet it
- if he has JJ/99/22/J9 he will not fold now because of A
so this bluff actually helps him fold all worse hands.
River:
- If he checked behind on turn then you can put a small valuebet so JX and maybe 9X can call, and fold vs raise
- if he bet turn he could still have QT/T8/JX but I believe all those hands would give up (check back) on river, so I think check/fold should be best play

This seams logical to me, but I'm still a fish so it might be completely wrong :f_p:


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rvnikauj
Joined: 03.02.2017

Originally posted by Oly0909
Why would you bluff A on turn?
Turn - Check/call:
- if he's bluffing let him bluff again
- if he has JX or 9X don't scare him away, let him valuebet it
- if he has JJ/99/22/J9 he will not fold now because of A
so this bluff actually helps him fold all worse hands.
River:
- If he checked behind on turn then you can put a small valuebet so JX and maybe 9X can call, and fold vs raise
- if he bet turn he could still have QT/T8/JX but I believe all those hands would give up (check back) on river, so I think check/fold should be best play

This seams logical to me, but I'm still a fish so it might be completely wrong :f_p:

Good point indeed, the donkbet in the turn it's to make villain if he is holding a middle pair or TT the ace would work as a scarecard, pay out off odds for QT, KQ and protect my hand against a backdoor flush.


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