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Turned set vs turn raise

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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $8.44 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (SB): $17.91
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG: $10.30 (VPIP: 18.39, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 90)
MP: $10.00 (VPIP: 22.02, PFR: 16.07, 3Bet Preflop: 6.49, Hands: 174)
CO: $11.06 (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 12.96, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 2♣ 2♥

fold, MP raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.25, fold

Flop: ($1.00, 3 players) T♠ 4♦ 8♥
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: ($1.00, 3 players) 2♠
Hero bets $0.64, fold, CO raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.16

River: ($4.60, 2 players) 3♠
Hero checks, CO bets $3.30, fold

CO wins $4.39

Hella strong line. I think we're going to get it in on the turn set-over-set almost every time we 3b.
When the flush hits obviously he could have a backdoor draw type hand, which makes sense.
I make quite a tight fold but vs his range we're losing to everything especially on the river.
Thoughts?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I think you should not play tricky and push on flop.


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FlyingDutchm1n
Joined: 21.08.2012

Yeah why not raise gii on turn???


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
I think you should not play tricky and push on flop.

On the flop huh,... :f_cool:

i'm not sure, his line was just so odd and i doubt he'll go broke with a lower 2pair there. But i guess i miss out on EV if i don't 3b vs his draws.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

On turn, I mean.


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anaquariansoul
Joined: 19.10.2016

I very much doubt vuillain is raising with a bare flush draw, also why Just call turn raise and check call pretty much all rivers imo..


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Villain could be heavy on higher sets but I think we have to count some bluffs in his range.
I'm not sure if I would go broke OTT because there are some slowplayed higher sets. Calling here and then maybe calling OTR sounds more reasonable to me?


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SuperChompa
Joined: 26.07.2016

Squeeze pre anyone?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Noo. It would be total bluff. 100% guarantee that there is overcards OTF and we have to fold 90% of the time.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by SuperChompa
Squeeze pre anyone?

No need to do that. We have a perfect chance to call - great odds, good implied odds, easy to play postflop.
No need to make pot bigger now.


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KatalonacX
Joined: 22.11.2013

Viliain is 24/13 looks pasive(no AF but usually for this stats), so it's more fold then call.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

I like raising OTT. You still also play vs draws OTT. The river is a call IMO. You still could play vs overpairs, 2p and maybe a strong Tx.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by Hesticus
I like raising OTT. You still also play vs draws OTT. The river is a call IMO. You still could play vs overpairs, 2p and maybe a strong Tx.

Overpairs? No overpair is ever raising the turn. And he didn't raise pre so he's capped to 10's and J's.

I don't see why he would check back top two. The only hand that makes sense is a slow played set or a combo draw like JQs.

I should of fold the turn.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

If you fold this turn- then you should not play this hand...


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
If you fold this turn- then you should not play this hand...

Villains range in this spot has us crushed.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

And what is his range?


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

Originally posted by DecMate

Originally posted by nitrol
If you fold this turn- then you should not play this hand...

Villains range in this spot has us crushed.

Why do you think so? What is the reason to think that he slowplayed set otf 3way?


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
And what is his range?

Sets &FDs.

@vaka
This is a rare line that represents a very strong range.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

As CO acts last on flop and checks I think he has more FDs than sets.


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