Very weird spot on turn with flush draw

Without checking: I would definitely not raise here in mw pot. You need to defend tighter so we cannot semi-bluff raise here IMO.

As played: I would give up here because it surely hits one of the opponents you are facing.

With checking: Well, hitting here is an understatement Anyway, just defend tighter and don't go all out with a draw when mw, that would be my advise.

What hands did you want them to fold by raising OTF?

Just call on flop. By raising you are ruining your implied odds. A raise would be "less bad" if it were the CO that bet and the button had called.

As i said, i wanted to gamble against button, since he is shortstack and with raising i wanted to make sure CO folds all his overcards and other crap.
I would never raise if they both were full stacks.
i dont really like call on flop. What if CO reraises? Even if CO folds, button is left with 19bb and we then cant fold on any river then

Well if you want to gamble then play other games.
Here you are putting money with odds to lose....
You should just call on flop.

You don't have odds mathematically, having 21-25% needing at least 33% given your fd is good

Originally posted by ugiic
As i said, i wanted to gamble against button, since he is shortstack...

You absolutely do not want to gamble versus a short-stack with Q high rendering the flush draw near useless. Horrible reasoning. Honestly!

You really, really want the big stack in. This is your flush draw speaking, not your Q high. This is your chance to make money instead of isolating yourself against a small-stack that currently beats you. Call. If CO raises, it becomes a usually very simple matter of pot odds and implied odds.

Call pre is good in mw pot but expect getting bamboozled by all that min raise game. Flop is x/c you can't say AXs isn't on villain's range, he has sets and other FD as well but your hand has potential keep them in the pot and keep it cheap until you get the nuts because you are mw and I don't think you have any fold equity here against 2.

If you had Ax of spades you could justify it, but the Q doesn't cut it. At best your vs a pair, at worst he could have your FD dominated.
So that's either 50% equity or next-to none.

YohanN7 is right. We really don't want to gamble. If you want, then do this vs big stack actually since his range is wider and hence, you have more fold equity. There are books that even recommend you to fold such hands (QJss) vs short stack preflop so I wouldn't be too happy calling the re-raise here from CO (although the price is really good and I'd probably have done the same). Additionally, I learned from coaching when a player is limp/raising preflop, it's nearly always a monster and it is this time no different.

Trust us, you really don't want to play this way vs SS who is limp/raising and you don't want to raise here OTF with too little equity and maybe we should assess whether to sqz ourselves here to 7 BB. It would have been an easy fold if re-raised.

Hope this helps. GL at the tables!