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getting hand ranges from big stack pushers

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vlzvl
Joined: 17.03.2014

PokerStars 8500+1500 - No Limit Hold'em Tournament (STT, 9-man, Regular) - 25/50 Blinds - 3 players

BTN: t1305 26 BBs - (38) VP:75 PFR:4 AF:0.8 - 3B:0 AS:0 FS:25 - CB:100 FC:66 - WS:33 W$:58
Hero (SB): t795 16 BBs - (1.8k) VP:19 PFR:9 AF:1.7 - 3B:3 AS:24 FS:86 - CB:42 FC:100 - WS:28 W$:63
BB: t6900 138 BBs - (31) VP:46 PFR:28 AF:2.6 - 3B:0 AS:66 FS:0 - CB:83 FC:0 - WS:41 W$:71

Preflop: (t75) Hero is SB with K :club: A :heart:
BTN raises to t1305 all in, Hero ???

So i am in the (play) money and in last place.
When a player shoves, i try to find his shoving range by his blinds. However in some cases, as the above, players are shoving with many blinds and i have problem finding a hand range.
In this example the raiser has 26 blinds and since th effective stack is 16bb i assume he shoves with a 16bb hand range.
But what is a possible 16bb (or more) hand range? Can i use his hud stats to find out? or should i just note what hands he shows down, based on his position and/or the stacks he's against? I find it difficult to build a hand range when the blinds are many.
In this particular hand he has a PFR of 4. Can i use this somehow and build a top 4% hand range? Should i use my hand chart where i shove with 13 blinds and just remove some lesser hands out of it? Should i use all the above?
What's your way of finding hand ranges?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

The problem here that in a play money game players can do crazy stuff and then it’s difficult for sure to give someone a hand range, but stacking off with AKo seems pretty standard in a spot like this.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Okkernootje
Joined: 02.09.2013

Originally posted by SDK1987
The problem here that in a play money game players can do crazy stuff and then it’s difficult for sure to give someone a hand range, but stacking off with AKo seems pretty standard in a spot like this.

Cheers,
SDK1987

+1 all the way. Play money can't be compared to real money play.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

On the micro’s it’s also tough to give everyone good ranges as well.
Especially the fishy players. Regular players are then easy to read.


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