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Arziak
Joined: 09.04.2017

Hi there,
I am very fresh just starting out and learning. I have had a hand today which I feel really unsure about and wanted to ask for your adivce. Anything I could have done differently? Maybe smaller bet or check on the turn for pot control? I wanted to protect my hand against the flush draws.

PS: Sorry if this is not the best way to post a hand I am still figuring this out

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** Hand History for Game 16021861897 **
$2 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday,April 12, 20:36:42 CEST 2017
Table Phnom Penh ( Real Money )
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9/9
seat 1: Arziak ( $2.07 USD )
seat 2: Player2 ( $1.97 USD )
seat 3: Player3 ( $3.85 USD )
seat 4: Player4 ( $1.07 USD )
seat 5: Player5 ( $1.94 USD )
seat 6: Player6 ( $1.87 USD )
seat 7: Player7 ( $2.02 USD )
seat 8: Player8 ( $2 USD )
seat 9: Player9 ( $1.36 USD )
Player7 posts small blind [$0.01 USD].
Player8 posts big blind [$0.02 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Arziak [ Ac, As ]
Player9 folds
Arziak raises [ $0.08 USD ]
Player2 folds
Player3 calls [ $0.08 USD ]
Player4 folds
Player5 calls [ $0.08 USD ]
Player7 folds
Player8 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 3s, 6c ]
Arziak bets [ $0.26 USD ]
Player3 calls [ $0.26 USD ]
Player5 folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
Your time bank will be activated in 6 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
Arziak bets [ $0.20 USD ]
Player3 raises [ $0.78 USD ]
Your time bank will be activated in 6 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
Arziak folds
Player3 does not show cards.
Player3 wins $1.72 USD


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MrQNo
Joined: 30.09.2006

You really want a hand converter :-) ps.com Sidekick is free.

pf: nh
Flop: Yout bet is too big. 2/3 Pot would be enough against a single opponent, even with the flush draw on board. Against 3 opponents, it is correct to bet bigger, but 3/4 pot should be sufficient.
Turn: Your bet is WAY too small. Again, 2/3 Pot would be appropriate. Your small bet allows flush draws to call with the correct odds. On NL2, after villain's raise, your aces are beat, and your fold is correct.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Hi Arziak :welcome:

Thanks for joining PokerStrategy.com. You should take a moment or two to Introduce yourself! to us properly.

With regards to the hand, it's best to use a hand converter so we can follow the action and analyze better. I think the flop bet was a bit too large. When mw, we want to bet lighter so weaker hands will call us off. I think folding OTT is fine since the board is paired and players will defend tighter when mw.

Cheers,

Hesticus


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Arziak
Joined: 09.04.2017

Hi MrQnNo and Hesticus,

thanks so much for your advice that helped a lot. I am in general very unsure how much to bet after the flop because I have only read the NL beginners strategy and it does not talk at all about that. So I will keep in mind to go for 2/3 to 3/4 of the pot as a rule of thumb for now.

Thanks for the hand converter link. I will use it next time.

I tried to decipher some of your slang:

- I guess "villian's raise" is the check-raise the opponent did on the turn? It usually indicates a pretty strong hand?
- OTT means when a bet gets raised or re-raised?
- What does mw mean? Could not figure it out.

PS: I wrote an intro post just now


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Nice post! :) Look forward reading more of you :f_thumbsup:

Yes, villain checked-raised on the turn indeed.
OTT = on the turn / OTF = on the flop / OTR = on the river
mw = multiway
xb = check back (when you are IP = in position)
xc = check call (when OOP = out of position)
etc.

There are indeed some more abbreviations, which are not official but you'll figure them out within a week most probably since you will get a feeling when you read some posts here :f_thumbsup:

Cheers en good luck,

Hesticus :f_drink:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You can cbet flop lighter and bet on turn slightly bigger.
The turn raise can be because of your small bet.
You can call that raise from time to time.


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