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[Closed] 2 hands, unsure/weak at river (bluff more or less)

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I'm putting the results in deliberately, because I think it's interesting in this case, if you don't want to know, don't look.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A♣, K♥.
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, MP1 3-bets, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero caps, 1 fold, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (21 SB) A♠, 9♦, 2♣ (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 7♦ (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (18 BB) T♠ (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 22 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ac Kh (one pair, aces).
UTG+1 has Js Jh (one pair, jacks).
MP1 has Qs Qh (one pair, queens).
MP3 has Ad Jd (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 22 BB.

Obviously I can't fold at the river, but although the board was fairly safe, I really didn't think, I was ahead at that point anymore. Should I have bet TPTK anyway?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A♠, J♣.
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 4♥, T♣, 2♣ (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 7♦ (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 2♦ (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Results in white below:
MP1 has 8h Ah (one pair, twos).
Hero has As Jc (one pair, twos).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB.

In this hand, I think, there was no chance at all, that I had the best hand at the flop, someone must hav had a little pocketpair or something, but I got almost everyone to fold. At the river, I still thought, that it was extremely unlikely that my A high with J kicker would be enough to win the pot, so I just gave up.

How would you have played that? A last stab at the pot at the river, check/fold after the flop, or someway else?


5 replies

1) Preflop Cap: good
Flop: good
Turn: good
River: okay, there could be a straight (and trips, FH, etc. :)). But with that low action and unscary board you HAVE to go to showdown. Me, i would thought about a river valuebet!

2) Bet Flop is the okay, if everybody checks in front of you. Behind you every player only calls that is why Bet Turn was the right decision.
There could be a discussion about a valuebet at the River, because he checked to you which means weakness.


1) Bet River
You win often enough to make it a value bet. The board also is rather unscary with few draws possible.
2) check behind river
No worse hand will call you, so it isn't a value bet. I also don't think that a worse hand will fold often enough to make it +EV.


TaZz
Joined: 27.01.2006

i think, the checks on the river are well played...

1) in my opinion TPTK has not a good showdown value with 5 players in the hand, so check / call is a good choice... the T makes also a straight possible

2) a lot of players only make call downs with low / middle / top pair + low kicker (yes, i have seen it), so i dont think, that it would been a value bet on the river...


Thanks for the answers.


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