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Hard spot on river with mid 2-pair.

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Tim128
Joined: 29.01.2017

So I recently played this hand. As you might see in the stats, the opponents are all unknowns (max 8 hands).

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 76.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (UTG): 103.4 BB
MP: 99.6 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 229 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8♣ T♣

Hero raises to 2.6 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.6 BB

Flop: (5.6 BB, 2 players) 8♥ 9♦ A♦
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB

Turn: (11.6 BB, 2 players) T♠
BB checks, Hero bets 6.2 BB, BB raises to 17.4 BB, Hero calls 11.2 BB

River: (46.4 BB, 2 players) 2♣
BB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB

Spoiler

BB shows A♥ 9♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 59%, Flop 87%, Turn 91%)
Hero mucks 8♣ T♣ (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
(Pre 41%, Flop 13%, Turn 9%)
BB wins 86.6 BB
Rake paid 3.8 BB

My thoughts while playing:
Pre: Here is actually where I already go wrong, I thought this was the bottom of my calling range, but it is the top of my folding range instead, however not a huge mistake, I think. Only BB calls.
Flop: Again one of the weakest hands without a draw that I will cbet, plan is to give up when called, because I am at the bottom of my range.
Turn: I improve and that's the sole reason I decide to cbet, but then I face a check-raise. I would fold every one pair here (AQ, AK etc), but this hand is a little too strong to fold, I think.
River: Another bet on the river, I was thinking what could he have, he most likely won't have a set (because on such a wet board he would lead and I block TT), he will have some bluffs because the flush missed, he could very likely have the straight. I need to be good 33% here but I don't know if this call was correct. Maybe I should've folded on the turn already because people don't checkraise draws on this level?


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BingoWings
Joined: 14.04.2017

T8s pre can go either way it's a non issue really just depends on your ranges. Flop and turn cbets are fine also imo. Vs the turn check raise you really only beat a flopped 89s - 4 combos and you have a blocker to it as'well. I think the minimum villain value raises with is Aces up 2 pair , perhaps T9s which has you beat anyway.

I think making a tight turn fold is probably the correct decision here. It seems quite weak but when you think about it your relative hand strength to the board is no better than say AJ- AK , they are pretty much equal strength/equity Vs villains range here.


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Tim128
Joined: 29.01.2017

Thanks! Helpfull comment! The relative hand strenght is a lot weaker then I realized myself after the check-raise.

But let's say I make this tight fold on the turn, don't you think that this is a good board to semi-bluff for hands like Kx of diamonds or any jack which he can have a lot of since he is the big blind caller?


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BingoWings
Joined: 14.04.2017

Ye its possibly a good spot for him to use some bluffs. But people generally call again or fold with draws on the turn depending on pot odds or how fishy they are. Rather than check raise the turn with them.

If villain has enough bluffs to make calling T8s profitable we should likely be calling AJ AQ AK as'well . If villain isn't check raising the turn with hands like AK AQ AJ himself then T8s is the same as AK AQ AJ for us. It beats nothing in villains value check raise turn range and becomes pure bluff catcher.

Question you need to ask is does villain have enough bluffs here.And from the tendencies of players at 5nl id say no people don't have enough bluffs in this spot. unless you have very good reads to say other wise on the player id go from population reads from the site and stakes your playing.

Also remember you raised from UTG so if villain is somewhat positionally aware hes going to have quite a tight range himself.

Yes hes in the BB but hes not defending that wide of a range vs UTG. Its not the same as a BB vs Btn or SB defending range, for example hes very unlikely calling like 30% or 40% of hands.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Follow the Baluga Theorem and fold everething below top 2P when facing a turn raise.


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