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Top set against a pot sized donk OTT on a wet board

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MrHappie
Joined: 25.03.2010

Hello everyone,

I have another hand that I would like some input on. Preflop and flop i think are pretty standard. However, I am at a loss as to what that big turn donk bet means and how to properly react. After thinking about it, I decided to fold here as I thought I would possibly face another huge bet OTR and would have even harder time there, plus the Villain is completely unknown and the pot was MW to begin with.

Thinking about it, I would say this looks like a bluff with something stupid like AKo or AKs and he decided to lead into the pot with a FD OTT (I have a hard time believing he would play his overpairs and sets like this - a slowplayed lower set is perhaps possible, but why donk the turn?). Sure, he could have pocket 77 which he raised UTG+1 and decided to call on flop, but would he really donk the turn here?

Did I give up too easily?

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 3050831
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BB: $5.07 (12 VPIP, 8 PFR, 0.8 AF, 2.4 3Bet preflop in 104 hands)
UTG: $5.00
UTG+1: $5.20 (pretty much unknown, something like 24 VPIP, 16 PFR over 12 hands)
MP1: $1.79
MP2: $7.19
CO: $7.47
Hero (BTN): $8.85
SB: $7.34

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 9 :diamond: 9 :club:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47) 9 :heart: 5 :spade: 8 :club: (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.07) 6 :heart: (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.05, Hero folds

Final Pot: $1.07
UTG+1 wins $1.03
(Rake: $0.04)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Well, in one of his coachings w34z3l said that a regular player will not do a lot of turn donks and they are mostly done by recreational players.
In your case villain seems quite tightand this donk can mean a 7x that got promoted to a straight. :)
I do not understand why do you fold the top set when you have a re-draw to nuts...
You should call and hope to improve to a FH. Then the big river bet will not be so scary. :)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

With 10 outs for a full house you will hit this in around 22% of the time and if you are always beat on the turn this would be a good fold, but in this case it’s tough I think to give him credit for 7x alone. The only reasonable hands he would raise pre-flop with is A7 and 77 I think. A7 would most likely fold the flop and maybe 77 as well and that would be a reason for me to call and call sometimes a river bet as well.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Even though I know I'm behind here OTT, I would not fold as we can re-draw. In addition, you have position so we have a huge edge here. We can re-open the action or even re-raise if villain bets OTR.


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