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SH Zoom AA, SB vs BTN, Facing Turn Raise as Preflop 3Bettor

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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $54.04 (108.1 bb)
UTG: $5.08 (10.2 bb)
MP: $51.11 (102.2 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $61.03 (122.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♣: A♠:
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $4.10, BB folds, BTN calls $2.90

Flop: ($8.70) 8♣: 2♠: 9♠: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.25, BTN calls $4.25

Turn: ($17.20) T♦: (2 players)
Hero bets $8.17, BTN raises to $52.68 and is all-in, Hero folds

Preflop: Standard 3bet. BTN plays 23/13 in 39 hands.

Flop: Cbetting for value. He could have sets, but I expect them to raise.

Turn: Cbetting for value again. He could have hands like JT and QT, flushdraws, gutshots etc. When he raises, he definitelly could have 76s or QJ. I don't think he has sets that often and I don't see him raising as a bluff with flushdraws at that point. I also followed Baluga theorem and folded. Snowie says we should call.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

As played, fold. But the turn bet is too small. Either don't bet, or bet bigger because of all outs (actual and fake) he has. (Flop bet is smallish too.)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Here is a situation which you have commented yourself a hundred times in this forum.
Of course you should fold here.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
Here is a situation which you have commented yourself a hundred times in this forum.
Of course you should fold here.

I posted it because it's strange that Snowie thinks we should call. I don't think that an average "real" player will have near as much semi-bluffs there as Snowie's opponent (Snowie).


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tschoa
Joined: 22.12.2006

I don't understand, why do you bet so small on this wet flop?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by nitrol
Here is a situation which you have commented yourself a hundred times in this forum.
Of course you should fold here.

I posted it because it's strange that Snowie thinks we should call. I don't think that an average "real" player will have near as much semi-bluffs there as Snowie's opponent (Snowie).

Maybe this is because of your small bet size. Check if you make bigger bet will it change?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by nitrol
Here is a situation which you have commented yourself a hundred times in this forum.
Of course you should fold here.

I posted it because it's strange that Snowie thinks we should call. I don't think that an average "real" player will have near as much semi-bluffs there as Snowie's opponent (Snowie).

Maybe this is because of your small bet size. Check if you make bigger bet will it change?

If I bet bigger, he likes calling more (I have better pot odds OTT), both if I bet just turn bigger and if I bet flop and turn bigger.


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Xixi74
Joined: 08.09.2013

Actually with A♠: 1/2 pot it's ok

Fold turn


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by nitrol
Here is a situation which you have commented yourself a hundred times in this forum.
Of course you should fold here.

I posted it because it's strange that Snowie thinks we should call. I don't think that an average "real" player will have near as much semi-bluffs there as Snowie's opponent (Snowie).

Maybe this is because of your small bet size. Check if you make bigger bet will it change?

If I bet bigger, he likes calling more (I have better pot odds OTT), both if I bet just turn bigger and if I bet flop and turn bigger.

Is it considering that villain will raise Tx, JJ-KK?


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Xixi74
Joined: 08.09.2013
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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by nitrol
Here is a situation which you have commented yourself a hundred times in this forum.
Of course you should fold here.

I posted it because it's strange that Snowie thinks we should call. I don't think that an average "real" player will have near as much semi-bluffs there as Snowie's opponent (Snowie).

Maybe this is because of your small bet size. Check if you make bigger bet will it change?

If I bet bigger, he likes calling more (I have better pot odds OTT), both if I bet just turn bigger and if I bet flop and turn bigger.

Is it considering that villain will raise Tx, JJ-KK?

He gives villain all QJs and 7s5s, 6s5s, 6s4s and 5s4s. I don't think he will have all those in reality.


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Xixi74
Joined: 08.09.2013
Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by Xixi74
Snowie folds QJo Preflop ? ?(

I think it's fine to fold QJo BTN vs SB 3bet (We are talking about villains range here). As SB is concerned, I think we should have QJo in our range when we 3bet merged vs BTN.


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