Grind Heavy May - 200 Hours 4 Tabling 15$ Spins

Good luck with your challenge and hopefully you will hit a big multiplier spin & go

Cheers,
SDK1987

6K$+ a month on such low SpinGo limit? Not possible but good luck. Btw its 12+ Buy ins to win a day.

I wish you a 9%er Ev upper in may!

Originally posted by SDK1987
Good luck with your challenge and hopefully you will hit a big multiplier spin & go

Cheers,
SDK1987

Much appreciated

Originally posted by AlvisR
6K$+ a month on such low SpinGo limit? Not possible but good luck. Btw its 12+ Buy ins to win a day.

Actually that's so far from truth
57 cEV is 30ish$ Post RB 4 tabling 15s. In this month I have 62 cEV 4 tabling 15s (which is 35ish$ Post RB) on 991 games sample (low sample ofc).
So it is certainly possible to make 6k+ on 15s especially if you play 200 hours because it is 30$ per hour post RB. Just from RB I will make around 8$ per hour which is 1.6k from RB alone. Last year I had around 25ish post RB $ hourly.

Amount of money seems a lot, but with 200 hours of grind you see that its actually a numbers game.
I am not obsessed with how much money I will win or loose in May. It would be great to have minimum 57 cEV grinding this many hours 4 tabling. That is what I mainly would love to see. Anything higher from 57 cEV will show me that I have surpassed my yearly goals for hourly increase.

Will post April graph in this response soon for you to see cEV while 4 tabling in April.

This is April 4 tabling graph with super low volume!:

Originally posted by Tichwich85
I wish you a 9%er Ev upper in may!

Only 9% ? Come on, that's nothing

Appreciate it a lot really. I am focused however on putting in the hours and to stick to my solid strategy and not miss spots (not to go overly aggro or overly passive). Everything else should click and hopefully cEV will be 57 as minimum which would prove to me that I am now at 30ish$ hourly post RB which was my goal for the whole year when I was setting the goals in late December 2016.

1st session in May:

I like how challenge started.

Lets go, Prof!:gl:

Originally posted by Innercityboy
Lets go, Prof!:gl:

:pcuser::coolface::truestory::nh:

Day 1

Graph:

7.45 hours of grind
228 games
RB 55$
Profit pre RB 345$ (won 25x and 10x today)

I would grade today's grind with 3/10 in particular due to river spots that I miss played on many occasions.

When I was announcing challenge, this is what I was looking for. How I would perform playing whole day, long hours. What would mental game be like, would I rush the spots, bluff catch too thin, bluff wide etc.
Today showed me that I was too light in several spots where I could have folded.

The thing I am MOST PROUD OF (besides volume) is the fact that before each session I work on the game 15 minutes, going over marked hands from the previous session played.
So today I studied 2 hours and played over 7 hours. Despite this I also was teaching guitar and music lesson so this is super brutal day. All in time to hit the bed at 10pm and wake up at 5am and do it all over again tomorrow.

I marked in game 57 hands today that I want to go over one way or the other (post or pre flop). I went over 23 hands, so tomorrow I will have 34 left to do. In the morning, as warm up, I will study at least 30 minutes (like today) and go over as many hands as I can. I am sure these spots will keep popping up in future days and sessions. I am not worried about it. Today was one of those days where I got bluff caught brutally light as well as my calls either ran into top of the range or I was just calling lighter then I usually do.

Finally, mental game off the tables VERY STRONG as well as at the tables. Focus on the other hand in some sessions was going out even though I didn't have any background distractions while grinding. It is very likely long hours and fact that I am out of shape for such grind. This is why I wanted to do this challenge in the 1st place, to push myself to do these 200 hours and see what happens at the end of it. If I continue to do spewtard retarded plays like today, I will need to change the ratio of study to grind to like 70-30 or 60-40 even until I sort out those rushed river spots (from June on). Until June, this grind ratio has to stay and I am positive I will not burn money in those 200 hours and that mental muscle will get tougher and my focus will also be stronger as days go by (its all about practice).

I am short on time now, gotta hit the bed at 10pm.
I will see you all tomorrow for another 7 hours of grind and about 2 hours of study with hopefully way less marked hands and miss played ones!!!

Good luck!
Very interesting your challenge.

Hello !
First of all I wanna wish you all the best ! I am not sure that is possible 60+cev on 15s , 4 tabling during the may ... the answer is simple ...10s .
Probably something like this would be good 50cev 6k games . GL & HF !

Originally posted by EU321
Good luck!
Very interesting your challenge.

Thanks man. I think so also mainly because of mental game, rest is just habit and routine for grinding.

Originally posted by AApostolov
Hello !
First of all I wanna wish you all the best ! I am not sure that is possible 60+cev on 15s , 4 tabling during the may ... the answer is simple ...10s .
Probably something like this would be good 50cev 6k games . GL & HF !

Hello !
I thank you very much for your wishes. I did notice that some games during the day were a lot more reg infested then usually which increases the variance (aggro regs especially).

Day 2

I played 4 hours something only which added to 12 hours grind in 2 days.
I didn't take a nap in the afternoon which regenerates me to grind more. I also was teaching 1 guitar and music lesson and spent a bit over 1 hour responding to Phuketinho's hands that he posted from his DB. In between sessions I was reviewing hands and writing thinking process which makes me happy the most because it is excellent routine setup as well as habit building for further studying (2+ hours per day).

I am updating now from laptop so don't have exact numbers but I did cash out 25$ RB and I think pre RB I was down 10 buy ins. cEV was also low like on Day 1.

Mental game and focus. I would grade it exactly like in day 1 so 3/10. 1st session in both days started very strong, my focus was killing in those (day 1 130ish cev , day 2 80ish cEV) with far less miss played hands. As day went on, there were more close spots and of course variance (setups pre flop with all ins mostly which drop cEV severely) but also very light bluff catching by opponents in HU vs 3 barrel which of course eats up chips like candy

Today I have 1st training session/work out with my CrossFit Sensei at 7am. Besides that I teach 1 guitar and music lesson at 8pm. Everything in between will be dedicated to poker of course. I marked in 2 days close to 100 hands from which I went over 50ish. Today I will go over them all and write thinking process.

I am capable of playing much better and most importantly regaining focus and control of my emotions when some regs or fishes bluff catch me 12 times in a row within 7 minutes. Future days and hours will show of course but I am very positive about my ability and was and still am ready that it will take me time to get into the zone to play this many sessions despite doing everything I can off the tables (longer study session morning, hand reviews 15 minutes before each grind session!). It will just take some days for my mind to adjust and focus to stay solid (I drink plenty of water when I grind - 3l minimum per day and 2 coffees).

Lets see how today goes. My hope is for mental game to go up to 5 or 6/10 which would translate into far less rushed spots which cause less miss played hands which translate into higher cEV and ROI long term.

Day 3

Played close to 5 hours, studied (hands + video) and had training with Sensei.
Today like in previous days, there were miss plays but variance also played a large role. Its hard to talk about variance when in 531 games I have 17 cEV and I am winning despite it pre RB 540$ !!! (won 25x and 10x).

Mental game today was improvement in comparison to previous 2 days. I would rate it 4.5/10 as minimum if not 5.5/10.
After going through a lot of hands from past 3 days, I saw different patterns for hands that I am marking:
- Miss plays/Spew
- Close spots
- Good hand but opponents call super wide
- Theory and range construction for such spot (to write it all out so it clicks next time)
- Pre flop (to double check if based on stats I made right adjustment)

From all these categories, the most hands fall under good hand but opponents call super wide which is excellent. On the 2nd place is theory and range construction to recap my knowledge along with spews and then its close spots with pre flop.

I have been experimenting and implementing new things in my game - which is a great thing. My game plan is constantly evolving and being tweaked and sometimes it works great, other times I get gang banged and that's fine too.
What is obvious in these 3 days is that majority of opponents on 15s think very little of range vs range. In other words, they play absolute strength hand vs relative and pay very little attention to how their hand looses value on later streets.
There have been many hands that I pulled the right move but got very light called. Of course that's where cEV went through the window mostly but also standard variance pre flop spots.

I will continue to study and grind at the same time. Today I experimented playing over 2 hours long session right after my nap. It worked out good for me, felt like I reached A game at times and was in the zone more. So in future days will experiment to play longer sessions to cut down wait time. This of course while gets volume in is problem for studying hands because they keep building up a ton for later study.

So far, 16.85 grind in. I am about 3.25 hours behind volume mainly due to lower grind yesterday and today. I will have days with 7+ hours again so that should work out by the end of the month I am positive.
I am more curious and working to find my rhythm for grind (to stick to short or switch to 3 long sessions per day) as well as optimal study time (hh reviews of marked hands with full thinking process). I am positive by the end of the month this experimenting will keep happening until I find what puts me in the zone to play my solid B game.

Variance is on my side in the challenge (close to 700$ profit in 16.85 hours) but I am not getting blinded by it in any way. Working on the game is essential to implement those new concepts and keep improving hand reading, textures, and other more advanced things. I like how today when I played longer session (2+ hours) I did some of those things. Certainly will check DB with full analysis when I get to several K games with these new adjustments I am making in my game. Hopefully it will prove to be more profitable then previous game plan because in theory it is but in practice it may prove to be burning money, lets see what happens.

Tomorrow guitar lesson and working on the game with grinding. Will go for 3 times 2 hour sessions. Feel this could work best when I don't have 7am training with Sensei, outside of that would need to do those shorter sessions.

Will post next graph in the middle of the month and one at the very end for sample comparison (3k vs 6k+ games)!

Day 4
Mental game 6.5/10
Grind wise probably lowest day. I have about 20 hours of grind now in 4 days which is still OK but I have to put every 3 days average of 20 hours which is close to 7 hours of grind. To do that I will experiement with 7x 1 hour sessions, 3x2 hours and 1x1 hour session or 2x2 and 3x1 hour sessions. I find that the less number of sessions I have to play the easier it becomes to implement it. Of course for focus that is another story because playing 2 hour long sessions 4 tabling can be brain freeze and can lead to burn out. So I have to push myself with these options, track them and see what happens with it.

Yesterday I created 2 different filters that helped me go through new strategy adjustment I am applying in May. I feel I am still at beginning to middle phase of it because there is so many variables to consider when doing it. So my only hope is that by the end of May I will have less spew plays with these adjustments I am making to my strategy as long term they will add larger cEV gap and will also prepare me to play anyone on any stake.

Learning process is fun and frustrating at the same time but that is the beauty of it. When I implement new things at the tables, when I get some crazy showdown with opponents it tends to put me in some form of tilt (I would say even anger tilt) which tends to put pressure on me to play faster and rush plays. This is not happening every time but it happens enough that I notice it. The way to fight this is to inject logic which is that most opponents don't work on their game, have no clue about how range vs range works or look on many textures and spots and hence they will make a lot of mistakes. Still, that shouldn't stop me from making my adjustments and plays because over long time they will loose because it is all about solid range construction which won't loose money long run. This is a statement that I keep repeating to myself and I get back into more calmed state where my emotions are not heated up and I feel less need to rush the plays.

So today I will go for 7 hours. There is no guitar and music lessons but there is training with Sensei sometime after 12 instead of 7am. My plan is to get at least 3 hours of grind before noon and then get 4 more hours by 10pm.

I will post the graph on 15h and end of challenge as promised. Until then grind, study and evaluate mental game development (focus, tilt, rushing the decisions).

Gang, my experimenting is costing me a lot of cEV but I am cool with it.
Need to keep pushing the volume, hit those 200 hours while working on tactical game and increasing focus during longer grind.

For graph hunters, a bit over 20 hours is played which is 10% of the challenge and I have 9 cEV ♦
Brutal I know. Its not all variance, there is miss plays but also tons of light calls by opponents which actually doesn't bother me at all. I am more looking into fixing my miss plays whether its flop, turn river or sizing vs getting super light called or running into top of the range.

From today I start officially to practice grinding 3 x 2 hour sessions and 1x 1 hour session. It will be even more troubling for focus but I want to reach this level of grinding so that June on my grind can be reached 200 hours per month in 4 to 5 daily sessions with way less cool down. Of course, studying off the tables is essential and it will mostly happen in the morning when my mind is fresh and at the end of the day (note taking and adjusting strategy).

That is all for this update, back to grind 5 hours today by 10pm tonight!

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