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bigdog63
Joined: 24.10.2011

I am actually only a rec player, playing for fun ~ 2 hours a day, sometimes less, on the weekends more. I am taking the game quite seriously, saying, that I try< to improve, take coaching etc.
As a matter of fact my game is getting better, can tell this by many stats (although they are still very far from good), my ranges now vs. 2 years ago, the plays which I can make or not (which include some fold in the right spots)..... I have several huge leaks (like making calls in the wrong spots), but this year I had the feeling it is coming together.

However, currently, to be exact the last couple of months, the game is just becoming f...ing ridiculous. It is like dumping money down the toilet. Over all sites I had been playing I am about 80 BI's below EV. As much as I attempt to inject logic and be content with playing well, I am totally losing it. Of course I eventually make bad plays, get tilted and start spewing. But I have also become quite good to break out of such sessions and stop the bleeding. But when it feels like every single session starts by giving 2BI's away due to suckouts, and the occasional set over set, then the fun just stops. Just see my graph below for this week.

It is like running a 5 mile race and having to run 2 miles first to catch up with the field. Grinding from behind is draining and frustrating. I realize that trying to systematically build a bankroll while continuously improving is a challenge which is beyond my mental capability. I do not care about the cash, but I do not want to give it away either. Of course I will not jump into NL100 without beating NL25 first. Couple of years ago I was steadily winning NL10 and failing at NL20, but I could alway go back to NL10 to rebuild. Right now I probly cannot even beat NL2 (although I did not try, as I refuse to humiliate myself or pay the huge rake).

So most likely this is the end of it.

P.S. Please to not advise me to take up "The mental game of poker"

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rehanovich
Joined: 30.03.2017

well mental game of poker is very important i struggle myself with it alot
but if u cant handle it then it might not be the game for u


I found Haseeb Qureshi's book "How to be a Poker Player" to be wonderful and he has a big section about dealing with downswings......everyone will have them and some do make you feel like quitting...but dealing with them is part of your development as a player. As much as you are suffering now in a while you will have a sun run that will make up for it.....as long as you keep studying and improving.


Take some time off.

Come back and try again.


Starfighter99
Joined: 04.04.2011

Graph looks like you Call way too much.

Went to Showdown and Won $ at Showdown would be interesting Stats.

Also Fold to cbet Flop/Turn/River


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Your sample is also on the small side, but it’s good to know how your Hud stats are as well.
If you want to improve your game more it’s also smart to post regularly hands on our Hand discussions for No Limit board.

Cheers,
SDK1987


HennieP
Joined: 15.05.2008

If you rule out variance then the obvious answer is that you're still lacking in skill. This is nothing to be ashamed of as poker can take many years to master. Even professionals make huge blunders occasionally so there's always room for improvement.

The question is, do you admit defeat or do you accept that your game needs work and start training harder? 2 to 6 hours a week is not going to be enough. You need to put a lot of hours into the game to master it or you'll at best become a mediocre player.


AlvisR
Joined: 27.02.2009

Your post is weird and full of errors...
MYou dont care about money meanwhile you refuse to play nl2 :spit:
Trying to be smart but show us 4k graph where even winning regs cannot escape from loss from time to time :pcuser:

All your vine is about - you used to play limit X which you cant beat anymore and now you cry because it is not fair. :appl:

A suggestion to succeed:
Take yourself in control and show yourself where you stand. Start with nl2, beat it, go for nl5, beat it while you will reach a limit which you can not beat.After realizing a limit you cannot beat, do not touch it. If you are eager to touch it, then make sure you WINRATE improved on lower limit instead of self confidence improvement (ego growth and lies to yourself). And only then start touching it. Why give away money for regs on higher limit if you dont want to? Even if you call yourself a rec player?

Conservative and safe guide to not bleed money at poker instead of blaming world is not fair as it got better than you.

Hope this helps!?


TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011

Your post is weird and full of errors...

I have to ask... Is this a game of thrones reference? :f_biggrin:

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I also 100% agree with your post. Biggest point you made is to not lie to yourself which is soooo important. Once you stop doing that you stop moving backwards and can finally start moving in the right direction :f_thumbsup:


ALL WHO ARE MAKING FUN OF THIS THREAD, LIKE IF YOU HAVE BEEN PLAYING HERE FOR A LONG TIME AND DO NOT NOTICE ANYTHING ODD OF POKERSTARS LAYOUTS, OPEN YOUR EYES


HennieP
Joined: 15.05.2008

Don't be silly Amisasi. PokerStars do not cheat and they certainly don't give new players better cards or whatever you're trying to imply. They use state of the art hardware RNG which means it's about as random as you'll ever get online.

In a live poker game you see maybe 15 hands in an hour. Online you see 60 hands and more in an hour. This is why you get a lot more bad beats and river suck-outs online.


OMG, I'm NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE CHEATING, THERE IS SOMEKIND OF NEW LAYOUT SYSTEM FOR OVER A WEEK OR SO, ARE YOU PLAYING THERE?
DID YOU READ WHAT THE THREAD STARTER SAID?
I FEEL 100% THE SAME WAY!!!


HennieP
Joined: 15.05.2008

I'm not sure what you're implying then because saying that you're getting bad flops all the time sounds like an accusation. If I'm misunderstanding this I apologize but the new thread you started also seems to imply that you're not happy with the boards.

I'll state again, this is most likely just you having a bad run and not because of anything PokerStars did.


AAAHHHHHH, I'LL REPLY YOU THIS FROM THE POSTER.
"However, currently, to be exact the last couple of months, the game is just becoming f...ing ridiculous. It is like dumping money down the toilet."<------READ ON AND THINK THROUGH

IT'S LIKE PLAY REGULARI, FEEL THE DIFFERENCE. SOMETHING IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!
BAD FLOPS AND BAD FLOPS <----WHATTT???


HennieP
Joined: 15.05.2008

Yes you keep saying that but you're not being specific. WHAT is different? Are you losing money? Are you getting a lot of bad beats? Are your cards not connecting to flops? Are you getting cold decked a lot? Any and all of these can still be contributed to variance so instead of just saying "SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT" tell us what you're actually complaining about.


DO you like regulary play poker? WHAT is different, YOU CAN SENSE THE CARD LAYOUT HAS BEEN CHANGED, FOR EXAMPLE, SHOULD I REALLY CALL Q9 WHEN I'M UTG AND BB SHOVES ( CUZ THAT WAS THE BEST HAND) <---VERY MANY ODD THINGS HAPPENING, LOT OF COMPLAINING ON THE TABLES.
ARE YOU LOSING MONEY? I'LL ANSWER EXACTLY LIKE HE "I do not care about the cash, but I do not want to give it away either"


Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Amisasi, you need to calm down, that caps lock is irritating. Instead of bitchiing here, go and analyse your hands, it will be much more helpful. So what, that layout changed? (btw I haven´t noticed it...) You can think that pokerstars is a scam, but that´s completely stupid imo. And if so, what are u gonna do about it? You can´t prove this. Very odd things happening - that´s what? Is it like you lose AI with 99% eq? Because that can happen, it can happen 10 times in a row...


Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

To bigdog: Try to take a break from poker and start studying, go through hand history, find a study group, eventually pay for coaching or whatever. And set some stop loss, u can´t lose 20BI in 4k hands...that just mustn´t happen :). Btw I´ve had pretty same graph few days ago, but it was over like 30k hands, or something simillar. Last 4 days I made 50% of what I lost... It´s just variance, go and study.


OOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMM GGGGGGGGGG <---- WITH 10 G-s
I HAVE BEEN PLAYING POKERSTARS LIKE NON STOP MANY YEARS, I HAVE NO COMPLAINS OVER MY BAD CALL'S OR GOOD CALLS,
BUT THIS, WHAT IS GOING ON FEW WEEKS<----ABSURD
I DON'T SAY IT'S A SCAM, BUT SMTH HAS CHANGED, FOR THE LAYOUTS, THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
AND FOR THE ANALYSE YOUR HANDS, DONE THAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN<----AND THEN YOU REALIZE ( I LOST, THINK WHAT WENT WRONG,REPEAT)
BUT THIS TIME AS WE ARE SPEAKING, THAT'S NOT RIGHT!!!!


Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I still can´t understand what´s your problem, but it seems that u only crying. And don´t use that caps lock, please.


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