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SCOOP 19-L ($11PKO) A8s multiway pot facing flop shove (action not closed)

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Okkernootje
Joined: 02.09.2013

My thoughts about the hand:
Table is pretty straight forward, except for the blinds. BB is fishy towards station/calling, SB is fishy on the more agressive side. Had some dynamics with SB and would love to get a real hand against one of these players.
> Pre: Open size was std at the table at the moment. Could go a bit bigger to isolate the blinds. We get 2 other callers and with the BB we see a flop. I think we can safely rule out the majority of toprange hands for both CO and BTN (like TT+, AQs+) and put them on some mid/ok stength to good drawing hands.
> Flop: nice flop for our hand, but not sure how to proceed. Check calling could certainly be an option, but when my draw completes I don't think I can extract more value from it. CBetting is also an option as I was the PF agressor. I a multiwaypot my cbet looks way stronger offcourse, so rules out pretty much all of my air from villains perspective. Not sure. I decide to bet as a semi bluff, looking for some opportunitys to build a pot and scoop my first KO. The bigger stack from CO just calls, and the BTN shoves (BB folds).

Should I jam here, push the weaker looking CO out of the pot, take my equity in the hand and try to KO the BTN?

** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ** (Poker Stars)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 11, 04:08:51 ET 2017
Table 1871889011 699 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( 29408 )
Seat 2: Player2 ( 6361 )
Seat 3: Hero ( 13917 ) ($5)
Seat 4: Player4 ( 10286 )
Seat 5: Player5 ( 12990 )
Seat 6: Player6 ( 50880 ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AF: 0,7, Hands: 114
Seat 7: Player7 ( 11264 ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 7, 3B: 3, AF: 1,0, Hands: 69 ($7,5)
Seat 8: Player8 ( 19583 )
Seat 9: Player9 ( 8325 ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 12, 3B: 8, AF: 2,0, Hands: 33 (5$)
Player1 posts ante of [50].
Player2 posts ante of [50].
Hero posts ante of [50].
Player4 posts ante of [50].
Player5 posts ante of [50].
Player6 posts ante of [50].
Player7 posts ante of [50].
Player8 posts ante of [50].
Player9 posts ante of [50].
Player8 posts small blind [200].
Player9 posts big blind [400].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As 8s ]
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Hero raises [876]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 calls [876]
Player7 calls [876]
Player8 folds
Player9 calls [476]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 7s, Qd ]
Player9 checks
Hero bets [1987]
Player6 calls [1987]
Player7 raises [10338]
Player9 folds
Hero ???


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Mantelo
Joined: 12.05.2009

You played your hand well and should call his All-in :f_thumbsup: If you fold, you drop below average again and it will be more difficult to hunt bounties at that point. And on this flop he can push weaker flushdraws K♠:J♠: K♠:T♠: K♠:9♠: J♠:T♠: J♠:9♠: T♠:9♠:, even agains Qx you have enough equity. Besides you have more chips than him, which allows to call lighter in these spots:s_cool:


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Jaunais
Joined: 24.01.2014

I believe any line on flop is good here. I would prefer x/r allin rather better than cbeting/callin allin


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Again, a hand history that's tough to read I think:

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:
UTG Player1 (29,408) 74bb
UTG+1 Player2 (6,361) 16bb
MP1 Hero (13,917) 35bb
MP2 Player4 (10,286) 26bb
MP3 Player5 (12,990) 32bb
CO Player6 (50,880) 127bb
BTN Player7 (11,264) 28bb
SB Player8 (19,583) 49bb
BB Player9 (8,325) 21bb

Blinds: 200/400 Ante 50

Pre-Flop: (1,050, 9 players) Hero is MP1 A♠: 8♠:
2 folds, Hero raises to 876, 2 folds, Player6 calls 876, Player7 calls 876, 1 fold, Player9 calls 476

Flop: 6♠: 7♠: Q♦: (4,154, 4 players)
Player9 checks, Hero bets 1,987, Player6 calls 1,987, Player7 goes all-in 10,338, Player9 folds

Final Pot: 18,466

I would bet this hand for sure on the flop. If we are checking we could lose equity if everyone is checking and the turn is a blank.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Okkernootje
Joined: 02.09.2013

ok, guys thnx for comments.


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Kinghu
Joined: 27.09.2016

I would certainly bet the flop, when player 9 shoves you have enough equity to call with 12 outs, 13 (if counting backdoor straight). I wouldn't be keen putting my tournament at risk but in knock outs you have to and have the correct odds to call.


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