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AJJ7ss - turned quads - in villain's shoes

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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $58.02 (290.1 bb)
BB: $46.16 (230.8 bb)
UTG: $20.77 (103.9 bb)
MP: $51.07 (255.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $78.77 (393.9 bb)
BTN: $31.02 (155.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♦: A♥: J♠: 7♦:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, BTN calls $0.70, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.70) 8♣: 2♥: J♣: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BTN calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.10) J♥: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.10, BTN calls $4.10

River: ($12.30) Q♥: (2 players)
Hero bets $12.30, BTN raises to $25.02 and is all-in, Hero calls $12.72

Results:

Spoiler

$62.34 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 8♣: 2♥: J♣: J♥: Q♥:
Hero mucked J♦: A♥: J♠: 7♦: and won $60.34 ($29.32 net)
BTN showed Q♠: 9♥: 7♠: Q♣: and lost (-$31.02 net)

Purpose of posting is to establish if villain did anything wrong here. He's playing 58/0 but that's beside the point.
Preflop seems fine to me - I think his call is reasonable; no need to to 3b.

Flop: He has an overpair and a nut gutshot. He may be able to rep some hands using blockers on favourable runnouts; calling seems fine to me.

Turn: once his opponent pots it I think he should fold. On the one hand this card is slightly better for his range so I become polarised(?) but otoh, it's a potsize bet and he doesn't block any hands I could be betting nor have any flushdraws to go with his hand. So, clear error without strong reads on me?

River: he rivers the nut boat, losing only to JJ exactly. On the other hand I'm potting. Is there any way his hand is just a call? Or is he committed to raising AI for value?

What should be my bet/call range on this river as played?

-Let's say I have 88** here. It feels like I shouldn't pot that otr and in fact probably have to bet/fold it.
- Let's say I have the nut flush with A♥: T♥: 9♣: K♣: Is that a bet/fold on this river? What sizing? Or a check/f?

Thanks


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

Villain should just fold turn. As you said he doesnt even have FD and you give very bad price. I dont like your sizing, as it's hard for villain to continue as he cant have J, he must be bad like here or leveling himself that you wouldn't pot FH.

River this is clear shove for him. I dont llike potting avain, I would go for smaller sizing to get calls from flushes or those leveling bluffcatchers. Very very hard for villain to have FH and he should just fold everything else against two pot bets.

I dont know about your bet-folding range, what would be your sizing with those other hands? Would you even bet K9? I think you should fold them against raise, since you have narrowed villain's range by pot betting - he should have only strong hands continuing.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Agree about my unbalanced sizing; there was a bit of history and he was 58/0 ;)


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

Ok, when you know you can get away (and get called) with these sizings against someone, then that's obviously max profit way to go :)


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