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[Closed] AJ Button early stage

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aurs
Joined: 31.10.2007

10+1$ tournament with 500 entrants.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

SB (t1110)
BB (t1930)
UTG (t1420)
UTG+1 (t1020)
MP1 (t3430)
MP2 (t3285)
MP3 (t1295)
CO (t2800)
Hero (Button) (t1565)

Hero's M: 20.87

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, A
6 folds, Hero raises to t150, 1 fold, BB raises to t350, Hero raises to t1565 (All-In), BB calls t1215

As the title says, Hero has AJ on the button and opens 3x.

BB reraises very little, just above minraise.

All three options worth considering:

Fold: it's still very early in the tournament, if Hero folds, he has a very healthy stack to play with almost 30 BBs.

Call: folding AJ on the button is kind of weak. Since Hero considers himself a better post-flop player than others, call is optional.

Shove: probably not a good option, taking into account all the factors.

At that moment, without thinking too much, I shoved because the reraise was so small, hoping to get a fold. After looking at the hand I am confused how should I have played there.

Your thoughts?

Flop: (t3155) Q, A, K (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t3155

If I call, is it possible to get away after flop? Top pair, reasonable kicker, gutshot. Yet, I am beaten by basically every hand if reraiser is tight.

Looking for comments.


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alejandrosh
Joined: 02.07.2008

shoving is not an option, your stack is way too big and your hand to weak to push it , why burning a 20 M stack with AJo preflop ?(

I probably call with position and reevaluate a flop, a AKQ board is not good enough to go broke.


spit22
Joined: 03.11.2008

i consider AJ a marginal hand when my stack is so healthy.. you can definitely call here but i wouldn't shove unless he was shortstacked.

as for the flop you don't go broke cuz hands like KQ,TJ ,AK, AQ and flush/straight draws are out there and i won't go broke early against those hands with top pair good kicker.


I think I'd call preflop, and call once (or twice) postflop, folding to a turn (or river) bet if unimproved. Or minraise his cbet back on the flop, trying to get 2 free cards this way, maybe a free showdown?


Actually with blinds at 50 id only call preflop, and on the flop, folding to a turn bet, not enough stack to maneuver on such a board, you pretty much beat only a bluff or TT/JJ.


aurs
Joined: 31.10.2007

Fair enough, I completely agree that shoving was the worst option.

I guess calling and folding turn would be one of the better lines, but: after flop there is 725 in the pot, I am left with 1565-350=1215 chips. Let's say he contibets around 500 - if I call, I am left with 715. How can I fold turn with these odds?

Folding pre? Hmm...


fuck odds sometimes I guess


i think it depends much on the reads

against an unknown player i would call preflop. i have a decent hand, the odds are good and my position is favourable.

so folding is far too weak.

pushing is a big mistake your stack is just too big.

on this kind of board it depends....
normally i dont think i can fold this.
because, he is BB and sees a button raise, so his reraising range may be AT+ , A8s+ , 66+ and so on.

so on this flop i`m far away from beeing beat most of the time.

if i got no reads at all, its really tough. because if you call on the flop a normal sized contibet your somehow comitted.
against some loser / agressive players i would shove it on the flop.