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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 905.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
SB: 63.9 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 125.5 BB (VPIP: 28.17, PFR: 19.72, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 73)
MP: 414.3 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
CO: 123.9 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 40.00, Hands: 8)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♥ Q♥

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, BTN calls 9 BB, SB calls 9 BB

Flop: (36 BB, 3 players) 7♥ 9♠ A♦
SB checks, Hero bets 9 BB, BTN calls 9 BB, fold

Turn: (54 BB, 2 players) K♦
Hero checks, BTN bets 25.8 BB, Hero calls 25.8 BB

River: (105.6 BB, 2 players) A♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 32 BB, Hero calls 32 BB

BTN shows 7♣ K♣ (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 38%, Flop 18%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows A♥ Q♥ (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 62%, Flop 82%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 162 BB

what'd you think of this line? I think when the river comes an ace we can't fold


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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

I like the line, you can't get 3 streets by betting yourself and people tend to level themselves from time to time to float those small bets way too wide.

Considered X/Jamming turn?
If we're beat, we're beat. We're x/c most rivers anyway so no change there.
But when we're ahead, we're not MILES ahead(i.e. set on dry board would be). Just look at how many draws/out he can have and is basicly freerolling if you x/c instead of playing x/r.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

I never even considered X/jam on the turn. and to be honest, if the river came anything but an A / Q, i would be inclined to fold to a ship.
I think X/jam on the turn would be too aggressive. There aren't that many draws out there, JQs MAYBE, 7d/9d/x perhaps,.. and if we get called i doubt we're ever ahead unless he is a fish.


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Deomedes
Joined: 12.11.2011

I like your line and i would not x/jam OTT also. I do not see many draws out there either. Maybe Varune can defend his interesting suggestion though.


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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

Every pair is still drawing to another 5 outs. If they have 7x/9xdd it's even 14 outs. TJ still has 8 outs and random diamond floats have 9 aswell.
He's not going to doublestab you /w air OTR so yea i'd argue x/f otr is ok when playing this line and not improving.
He's mostly just checking back 1pair hands etc because your range is faceup after the x/c, no point in bluffing someone off a strong Ax imo.

BUT as i said in the first line, most of that air he's betting on the turn, as a bluff, still has like 20% equity. He's in position, he knows your hand, so he can decide to bet river or not when he hits. By x/jamming you deny this option and don't have a guessing game on the river.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

I mean all this said, about my range and whatnot, I don't even consider to be much of a leak to exploit. I don't expect the average NL10 player to take such an agro line of stabbing with a draw in a 3b pot; it represents a ton of strength to call and then bet.
In hindsight I'm even considering folding the turn, but our hand is under-repped and a little too strong to straight out fold. I think it's closer then it seems though.

Check shipping the turn is a high varience line, and for it to be profitable in the long run we need stats on our opponent to know he can have bluffs in his range here. I think without is a little too spewy.


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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

X/folding turn would be horrible. That means your 3betting and hoping to flop 2p+ to play any further than the flop. :f_biggrin:
I'd rather see you betting turn smallish again to milk his draws. He'll most likely will raise his value, 'he want's to build a pot'. And most often won't really bluffraise you as your range is still rather uncapped by betting twice.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Folding on the river is not the case, you either call or raise (even though it's hard to expect a call from anything that isn't at least a trips)


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