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Just new to tournaments and small question.

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pdfbq
Joined: 23.05.2008

I am a cash player (2NL).

Now trying tournaments (9 seat turbo) with the shove thing when you're low :f_smile:
Does not go to well but I have the feeling I'm running bad (played about 16 ~ 20 of them I think)

Now the question: Does the graph below also think I am running like s..t?
(extrem small sample size I know)

I think it shouts a really bad run but I don't know.

Thanks in advance


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Hey pdfbq,

Because MTTs have a changing blinds structure, I prefer to use BBs won rather than chips won. You will generally play according to the size of your stack in BBs (or Harrington's M) rather than chips.

It does look nasty but I think changing to the more relevant BBs won will make it look better and ofc it is still a very small sample size.

Regards

Laz


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It’s also tough to see what kind of sample this graph is based on.
We see only data information and the chips you lost.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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pdfbq
Joined: 23.05.2008

Ah.. yes looks less dramatic.

Still running a bit bad?


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Hey pdfbq,

If you play traditionally strong ranges, you will generally run below Ev. This is mainly because you gain a little on your net expected line when your hand wins and the line goes down significantly when you lose.

To use a simplistic version, say you are in the BB with AA with 100 BBs and villain is in SB with 100 BBs with KK. Villain shoves, you call and there is now 200 BBs in the pot.

You have 81.26% equity.

So your Net Expected BBs is 200 BB s * 81.26% = 162.52 BBs. When you win, your Net Expected line will rise by 37.48 BBs while if you lose, your line will go down by 162.52 BBs.

Suckouts, coolers and bad beats have a devastating effect on your Net Expected line and unless you are doing the same to your opponents, you will always run below Net Expected.

This is OK and the majority of tournament players will have this problem. It is much more important to keep the green line as far above zero as possible.

Hope this helps

Laz


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Mompacha
Joined: 18.08.2017

Hi, i'm new in this too, so i don't know where to post my doubts haha.
Do you recommend to play tournaments or cash for a beginner?


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Oogadoo
Joined: 10.08.2014

Play them all Cash, Tournaments, Sit an Go with larger fields and Double Your Money Sit an Gos, find out which you enjoy most and play that there is more than just NH Holdem to play. Keep educating yourself with sites like this and the Twitch poker players whichever way you learn best when I first started I played free play for a few months to get used to the game. Put a bankroll on a site around 100 buy ins for cash and or tournaments then play low cash/ tournies/sit an gos try not to lose this (yes stupid statement). If your new at first you are going to find it hard to make money just enjoy it and play low stakes like I said if your serious about the game use this site , twitch,books whatever you prefer and your game will improve. For me its a hobby that costs me nothing and pays me a small amount over the year but the most important thing is TO HAVE FUN.


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