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Should I have called or folded on the flop? (This is a hand to show why you shouldnt play tired)

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AnXfile378
Joined: 20.07.2017

So last night I was pretty tired and made the poor decision to play at around 1am in the morning not playing at my full mental capacity I guess. Anyway wanted to show this hand and see what you guys would have done here, on the river and if you would have done something different on the previous streets.

I am playing a Full Ring table (something I normally dont do, but a buddy was playing there so I figured I would join him for some late night fun)

NL50

Stack Sizes of the players involved in the hand

UTG 2 - 94.16 BB
MP1 - 101.5 BB
BU - 133.72 BB
BB (HERO) - 95.54 BB

HERO DEALT - 4♦: 9♦:

UTG2 - Call 1 BB
MP1 - Call 1BB
BU - Call 1BB
BB (HERO) - Check

TOTAL POT - 4.5 BB

FLOP - 8♦: K♣: 9♥:

BB (HERO) - Check
UTG 2 - Check
MP1 - Bet 2.24 BB
BU - Fold
BB (Hero) - Called 2.24 BB
MP1 - Call 2.24 BB

TOTAL POT - 11.22 BB

TURN - FLOP - 8♦: K♣: 9♥: 4♣:

BB (HERO) - Check
UTG 2 - Check
MP1 - Bet 8 BB
BB (HERO) - Call 8 BB
UTG 2 - Call 8 BB

TOTAL POT: 35.22 BB

RIVER - TURN - FLOP - 8♦: K♣: 9♥: 4♣: 2♣:

BB (HERO) - Check
UTG 2 - Bet 24 BB
MP1 - Fold
BB (HERO) - ???

Spoiler

BB (HERO) - Calls 24 BB

UTG 2 - Shows Q♣: T♣: (FLUSH)

So sometimes I am weak in this spot, because it seems obvious he has a flush, but I think I try to get to cute and think he is bluffing. Would you guys have folded here, or maybe should I have raised on the turn. Before the River, he wasn't the aggressor in the pot and maybe a raise would have pushed out both opponents since we see on the River that the aggressor got out of there.


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bodycheck
Joined: 09.09.2012

Definitely fold OTR as you said. OTT we have too weak hand to raise imo. We would isolated to stronger hands by raise and dont want turn the hand into bluff.

I personally fold flop since we have too weak hand, vilain will not bet many bluffs 4w and our hand will not good enough vs his range and even we dont need defend this hand in order to preclude his bluffs be profitable imo.


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janusasd
Joined: 11.08.2017

agree


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think flop and turn are ok but river could be folded.


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Fanko
Joined: 24.08.2010

Just fold the flop. As played call the turn and fold the river.


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martinemem
Joined: 05.07.2011

So ok. The right advice, now that the rum bottle is empty, and the path of grocerybags in apartment to cover the broken glass is on the verge of needed to be reorganized, AND the glass WASNT a weaker opponent, and therefore feets need rest, surely in order to get this comment not erased i would have to make the mod feel important, and he is, very, so therefore the right option is not to shove the river (in hind sight since we do NOT see he has a fd and gutshot on the turn) it is not the correct option to have an easy shove on the river to protect against stronger 2 pair that might hunt for chests. So. In that regard, in the weak hindsight, we can therefore, SINCE WE HAVE TO PLAY THE WEAK 2 PAIR AGRESSIVE SINCE THE RNG MAKES U WANNA PAY RAKE BY MAKING THEESE SPOTS, shove the turn. Ofc that is only +ev because of him calling with 1pair + flush and combo draws very likely, although he does not get the price, due to chipev vs ev$, and only then, you will know, your call wasnt correct. But since u did not lose the hand, the chests might not offer you compensation ofc, this is important.

Then you can make the argument, since there is no handnr in beginning of hand, that you probably would have hit an 4 on the river, would you have showed. But that depends on if he snapcall or he tanks and call. Sure sure, and again, this can vary depending on the amt of pieces you have in amaya. I myself do not trade anymore. It was simply too easy, and sorroundings became greedy, so i instead just make advice. Lucrative, as they, may, are, is, and be, so forth to the extent of instant perfection, the continuation of relative arguments in there would also be, your tongue needs a lot more training. First make it numb, so you can put it in there really deep, that helps too. U know.

Case neither closed nor reopened, but slightly peaked up an inch.


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martinemem
Joined: 05.07.2011

Also posting your alias on stars when playing with friends on same table can be argued "the grey area" and you will therefore feel even stronger now that you know that you didnt. Because theese things DOES NOT happen, ever, to any extent, so again if your tongue for information needs salt, start out with pebber.


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