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[Closed] 22$speed bubble coop-play or overpush?

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viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

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iPoker Game 2055717602 / Tournament
Table "TURBO" Bakersfield - 2009-02-14 21:05:35
Blinds : 200/400
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4 players
[1] mahaLund (840)
[But] brera59 (3830)
[SB] aaij (4000)
[BB] hero (6330)

hero Q♥ K♣ Initial Pot: 600

mahaLund is All in
brera59 folds
aaij calls 640
hero is All in
aaij is All in

I love this shove for the obvious reasons ^^
Two questions:
- how often do you expect villain to be slowplaying or call/calling hands here?
- What range of hands do you overpush here?

c


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Maarten84
Joined: 22.02.2008

Interesting hand and nice hand as well imo. A call by the sb isn't even that bad. If you win, you do a great deal, if you lose you still have some chips left and you will be ITM 90% of the times. Obv. it would suck if you lose your bigstack, but shit happens from time to time.

- not much
- would say about 22+, A9o+, A2s+, KJo+, KTs+


rhinoneil
Joined: 16.04.2008

I think i might be tempted to just call it down to eliminate the short stack but I absolutely see the reasons behind your shove. My only problem is that if you over shove and take this guy off the winning hand you run the risk of tripling up the shorty.


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

tripling up the shorty is "OK" here imo since you can use your bigstack to pressure the 2 shorter stacks (and win a lot of chips on the bubble).


depends how you want to look at this hand but of the topic of the actual hand. i agree. Normally you want to get into the money and burst the bubble. However i believe that when you have a chip stack like this you need to keep the 4th player in if you can. You can build so many chips with a big stack on the bubble when noone wants to play agaisnt you till it bursts :)


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Originally posted by Maarten84
Interesting hand and nice hand as well imo. A call by the sb isn't even that bad. If you win, you do a great deal, if you lose you still have some chips left and you will be ITM 90% of the times. Obv. it would suck if you lose your bigstack, but shit happens from time to time.

- not much
- would say about 22+, A9o+, A2s+, KJo+, KTs+

I agree with this. Nice post Maarten84. Against most players (I'm looking at SB here) this is pretty much a win/win situation.


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

Ah I expected a much looser range ^^

I was thinking something like 60%-ish since you really have massive FE here I think :)


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

On average I think that players will call here too often for us to be able to push that wide profitably. I don't mind doing it with quite specific reads, but against unknown I feel Maarten's range + a few hands is optimal