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Okies. Need to get some things clear again.

1) how much im supposed to trust my KK (or QQ)? I guess the case is different whether it's an overpair (like in 1) or whether there's some scary card on board (like in 6 & 8)..
2) should i just be aggressive and bet flop?
3) to be honest, no idea..fold turn..or maybe i played just ok.. tell me :)
4) fold preflop?
5) well.. stupid post but, fold flop?
8) heh, dont ask me wtf i did in flop i dont know.

[edit]. ok. did some research with my last thread and i guess answer to 1 is that it depends also quite a lot on my reads of opponents? hmm..and pot odds?

1)
Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero caps, SB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (18 SB) 2, 4, 7 (4 players)
SB bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (15 BB) 2 (4 players)
SB bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (19 BB) 6 (4 players)
SB bets, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 22 BB

2)
Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, A.
Hero raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) K, K, 2 (5 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, Button bets, BB folds, Hero folds, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 2 (3 players)
MP1 checks, CO checks, Button bets, MP1 calls, CO folds.

River: (8.70 BB) 2 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Button bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB

3)
Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 5 folds, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) J, Q, 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) J (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.70 BB) 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB

4)
Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A, 8.
UTG calls, 4 folds, MP3 raises, Hero calls, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.40 SB) 7, 3, 7 (4 players)
UTG checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, UTG calls, MP3 calls, Hero folds.

Turn: (8.20 BB) 6 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP3 checks, Button bets, UTG folds, MP3 calls.

River: (10.20 BB) 8 (2 players)
MP3 checks, Button bets, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB

5)
Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 8, 8.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 5 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9, 3, K (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 7 (4 players)
SB bets, BB folds, UTG raises, Hero folds, SB calls.

River: (8 BB) K (2 players)
SB bets, UTG raises, SB 3-bets, UTG caps, SB calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB

6)
Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q.
Hero raises, 5 folds, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero caps, CO calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 5, A, J (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

River: (10.70 BB) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.70 BB

7)
Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K, J.
UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) Q, 5, 9 (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, SB folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) T (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 5 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

8)
Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, K.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 3-bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 4 folds, Hero caps, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (17.40 SB) A, 2, 9 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (11.70 BB) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.

River: (13.70 BB) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.70 BB


1 reply

1) Ok, with no reads on this guy, let's take a look at a general range here.
--> He 3bet flop. This is .05/.1... but assuming he knows the difference between a flop and a river, this puts him on either TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA, or AK, possibly AQs if you think he's loose enough to re-pop you with it. KQ and AJ are pretty unlikely. Unless, of course, he's terrible. Then, you don't know where you are here. Let's take a look at this.

-->He leads out on the flop. Not uncommon for any of the hands above. Doesn't hep us. He 3bets again though, and here, I have a hard time putting him on anything but a pocket pair, and I'm reluctant to put him on JJ or TT, though this is a micro limit and players here can be BAD!

-->Leads the turn when a blank hits. Again, not uncommon. I'd probably reraise him here, and see what happens. if he 3bets again, call down. There's no way I'm putting him on a small pocket pair. If he shows one down, so be it, add him to your buddy list.

-->Bets river. You have to call this. I'm thinking he could have AA, KK, or QQ, maybe JJ, but unlikely. KK is also pretty unlikely, and also results in a split part. Anyone want to pokerstove this? Either way, call it down.

2) How often do you cbet? Mix in some folds and some bets.

3) I don't like the flop raise here. Villain capped flop, and your best case scenario at this point is AK, where you'd be splitting a pot. Any cap-worthy pocket pair here and you're beat, barring a ten on the later streets. I don't think an ace or a king really helps you much, considering queens already have you pretty much beat, as do aces, of course barring the miraculous ten or runner runner kings. I think you're behind here, with only 4 real outs left in the deck.

4)Fold preflop.

5) 2 over cards on the flop, I'm usually throwing this away. You're against 3 opponents here. Heads up I might play back at the guy.

6) Tough one. I think we put him on PP's from tens to aces, AK, and possibly AQ. You're only ahead of tens. The tough part about it is, this is .05/.1 limit poker. You can't count on villain to be good, even mediocre. I'm betting the flop, then calling down the rest of the way after his raise. Yeah, it's pretty loose, but I know you've seen some of the hands those kids show down.

7) I'm not a fan of the flop raise here. You have a gut draw and a single overcard. When the straight does hit though, you didn't play it terribly. A more conservative approach would be to raise it, then call down his bets after that. There are just too many people playing suited trash to let go of that possibility.

8) I don't think you played it too poorly. The check raise shows alot of strength, like you may have flopped a set with your aces, but you slowed it way down after, representing a lot of weakness. I'm a pretty agressive player at these levels, and I'd probably reraise him on the flop and turn, and call down if he's not scared after that.

Throughout all of these hands, you look scared. Just because you aren't holding the nuts doesn't mean you're not holding the best hand.