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HM2 all-in preflop , sometimes not showing equity

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zyvy
Joined: 20.02.2009

hi all,

it is very strange to me , that HM2 sometimes showing equity and sometimes not in all-in preflop situation.
is there any reason why is this happening?

thank you


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I moved this to Poker Tools, where HM2 support will find it easier :f_thumbsup:

Are the hands where equity is not shown totally similar, or are they for example multiway all-ins or something?


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zyvy
Joined: 20.02.2009

thank you la55i,
they are not similar some of them are multiway some not , for example:

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IPoker, $0.01 Buy-in (80/160 blinds, 16 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 5,446 (34 bb)
BB: 5,312 (33.2 bb)
UTG+2: 769 (4.8 bb)
Hero (MP1): 209 (1.3 bb)
MP2: 3,505 (21.9 bb)
MP3: 138 (0.9 bb)
CO: 4,771 (29.8 bb)
BTN: 2,476 (15.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9♥: A♦:
UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to 193 and is all-in, 2 folds, CO calls 193, BTN calls 193, SB folds, BB calls 33

Flop: (980) 8♠: Q♥: 4♦: (4 players, 1 is all-in)
BB checks, CO bets 320, BTN calls 320, BB folds

Turn: (1,620) T♣: (3 players, 1 is all-in)
CO bets 960, BTN calls 960

River: (3,540) 3♦: (3 players, 1 is all-in)
CO bets 960, BTN folds

Results:

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3,540 pot
Final Board: 8♠: Q♥: 4♦: T♣: 3♦:
CO showed T♥: 8♥: and won 3,540 (2,051 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-1,489 net)

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IPoker, $0.01 Buy-in (125/250 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 14,902 (59.6 bb)
BB: 10,750 (43 bb)
UTG+2: 6,213 (24.9 bb)
MP1: 1,619 (6.5 bb)
MP2: 1,946 (7.8 bb)
MP3: 11,837 (47.3 bb)
CO: 780 (3.1 bb)
Hero (BTN): 1,060 (4.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T♦: A♥:
5 folds, Hero raises to 1,035 and is all-in, SB calls 910, BB calls 785

Flop: (3,305) 8♠: 8♥: J♦: (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB bets 250, BB raises to 500, SB calls 250

Turn: (4,305) K♦: (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB checks, BB bets 250, SB calls 250

River: (4,805) 6♥: (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB checks, BB bets 750, SB calls 750

Results:

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6,305 pot
Final Board: 8♠: 8♥: J♦: K♦: 6♥:
SB showed J♥: T♣: and lost (-2,560 net)
BB showed 6♣: 8♦: and won 6,305 (3,745 net)

from what i can see now , that for some unknown to me reason my cards are not shown at the end in the results , when i click on hm2 view - copy and paste here on forum. it is strange because they are ok in hm2 view like this:

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normally when i can see equity my hands are also shown in the results , and i can see that i had something(my cards) and i lost/win in the results , like in this example:

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IPoker, $0.01 Buy-in (80/160 blinds, 16 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 980 (6.1 bb)
BB: 2,652 (16.6 bb)
UTG+2: 1,484 (9.3 bb)
MP1: 1,274 (8 bb)
MP2: 5,328 (33.3 bb)
MP3: 785 (4.9 bb)
Hero (CO): 1,693 (10.6 bb)
BTN: 154 (1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T♥: T♦:
UTG+2 calls 160, MP1 raises to 1,258 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero raises to 1,677 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB calls 884 and is all-in, BB folds, UTG+2 calls 1,308 and is all-in

Flop: (5,446) 4♠: K♣: 3♥: (4 players, 4 are all-in)
Turn: (5,446) 3♦: (4 players, 4 are all-in)
River: (5,446) 7♦: (4 players, 4 are all-in)

Results:

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5,446 pot
Final Board: 4♠: K♣: 3♥: 3♦: 7♦:
SB showed 7♥: 5♥: and lost (-980 net)
UTG+2 showed K♠: 8♠: and won 5,446 (3,962 net)
MP1 showed A♦: 9♥: and lost (-1,274 net)
Hero mucked T♥: T♦: and lost (-1,484 net)


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netsrak
Joined: 11.03.2006

Please see our all-in FAQ: http://hm2faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/1212/What+is+EV%3F+%28Expected+Value%29

If you have a multiway Pot and you are all-in but villains are playing some streets, all-in EV will not be calculated.


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zyvy
Joined: 20.02.2009

that is logical,
thank you for quick answer


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