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ATs call shove ?

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DAYETTAY
Joined: 03.10.2015

So after the limp in I am not really sure what is best here. In all honesty I can't really remember why I only called as I should probably have raised here. When the BB goes all in for 40BB I can't believe he is super strong here as he would likely play for better value with QQ+ and AK. it screams medium pocket pair to me and I do not mind a flip for a massive pot. when the original limper near snap calls the BB shove I am concerned that he was trapping but really don't know what kind of range I can put him on.

1) Is this a call in the long run ?
2) If we raise the limper and the BB still shoves and limper calls would that change anything ?

Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 153,180 (38.3 bb)
BB: 163,068 (40.8 bb)
UTG+1: 107,393 (26.8 bb)
UTG+2: 49,716 (12.4 bb)
MP1: 74,048 (18.5 bb)
MP2: 30,495 (7.6 bb)
MP3: 117,820 (29.5 bb)
CO: 116,630 (29.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): 160,031 (40 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A♣: T♣:
2 folds, MP1 calls 4,000, 3 folds, Hero calls 4,000, SB folds, BB raises to 162,568 and is all-in, MP1 calls 69,548 and is all-in, Hero calls 155,531 and is all-in

Flop: (399,110) K♥: 4♥: T♦: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: (399,110) 4♠: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: (399,110) A♥: (3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

399,110 pot
Final Board: K♥: 4♥: T♦: 4♠: A♥:
BB showed 8♣: 8♦: and lost (-160,031 net)
MP1 showed J♣: J♦: and lost (-74,048 net)
Hero showed A♣: T♣: and won 399,110 (239,079 net)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Pre-flop I would isolate the limper and fold if someone will shove. I don’t think the BB would ever shove with less than AT and we will flip in best case. Against 2 all-inns the fold is even easier for me.

Now we are limping the shove of the BB is big for sure, but even if he has a capped range I don’t think he would shove to often with less than AT and with the first limper all-inn I would make an easy fold.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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