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I dont mind calling or 4-betting this premium hand pre. Here you might want to keep spr higher in general as he probably is weak postflop player and you've edge.

You've this read he min-check-raised you and called with crap, and he min-3bets alot. Now is potting it two times on monotone board though, so that is bit different behavior than those examples.

I would say this play is usually pretty strong and not any random hand or set. You did not say does he always just bet pot on all situations. If he always pots I guess it's theoritically possible that he plays set this way because he has odds to boat up.

If you think you cant let this go against such player I would just call it down instead off re-raising turn. I would then not fold any river: he is saying he has the nuts right now and if he actually has set and boats up, nh sir. I think it would be quite bad to donk shove any river, when you're hoping he has a bluff or is so bad that overvalues some weaker hands.

What would be your preferred line, given these reads? Are you inclined to fold turn?

Well I think it's difficult. 3rd nuts, AKc on the board, he would need to have pretty exact hand to have you beat. Min 3betting and playing way too wide, cbetting 100%. 100bb deep money would definitely be in against him, but here you're deep.

More important reads would be though does he always cbet pot, does he continue putting pressure vs call ott too and has he been caught bluffing and if so, did it make sense or is he randomly pushing buttons as it seems

Originally posted by SeagalSteven

More important reads would be though does he always cbet pot, does he continue putting pressure vs call ott too and has he been caught bluffing and if so, did it make sense or is he randomly pushing buttons as it seems

Cbet 100% (6/6), as I said. I think it's clear that he's randomly pushing buttons both from the min3 and min4bets, the click x/r, and his potting flop and turn on this particular board which - I'm sure - makes sense with no possible holding.

Well, it sounds like you've pretty solid case and opinion/read for looking him up

I think so. He had KK here. It would be interesting to know how he would actually have played Q high flush here. I suspect that there would have been less 'panicked potting' involved ♦

Hard to say what these guys are thinking, or are they thinking at all. Some just pot with nuts too

I dont think just calling is bad anyway. His draw is dead then otr, but as seen before with that JJ flush he doesnt seem to care and call KK anyway pretty likely, and no way he is gonna fold weaker flush.

If he hits his FH then I wouldve paid him of, but the result is same. I mean you could fold pairing river, but with this type of fellow there's just too big chance he has random hand, or AKQ if 6/4 pairs.

By calling ott here he will have bare Qc or all of his random air still in his river range, which is nice big +side of just calling