[Closed] TP/TK on blind battle

For me obviously not.

It's 12 in pot + 3 sb bet + 10 your bet + 7 his raise in the pot = 32
+34 his shove = 66
and you call for 34 more. that's half the potsize.
If the player is idiot style I'd go broke here because he'd often hold KJ/QJ. Vs decent player I'd again fold ... your outs on backdoor flush are kind of small.
Can't see anyone do this with nothing. I think you are often beat by overpair.

I think he might go broke with a draw in this spot

Ya it's a hard decision. If you think he could be doing this as well, I'd call. You'd have to know if he would raise allin here with flushdraw.

If you don't know anything about the player I for myself follow the simplest of all poker rules: if it's a very close one, fold.

variance--

3 bet pot blind vs blind and you have TPTK for 100bb i think you just have to go broke here unless you have an amazing read, otherwise why 3 bet the hand and hit just about the best flop you can and still fold.

I don't think you can just go broke on a pair of Jacks unconditionally. I don't think going broke here would be a big mistake, but I think it's definitely worth a thought.

He might go broke here with a draw sometimes, but I doubt that he is ever going broke after mindonkbetting the flop into your preflop 3bet, then shoving over the top of your raise.

I will always expect to see a better hand then. I could be wrong, but on balance, I think this is -Ev.

You already have some money in the pot, so I would call the shove, since you only have to win 2 out of 5 times or something to make it +EV

True, but I think you're behind more than that.

This 3bet shove looks a lot like a flush draw or maybe it is a monster draw. Did u have any reads about him? Cause this small donkbet it is really strange i would be suspicious. If i saw him playing sneaky and makes this strange bets with good cards(weak player do this very often) i will not committed my whole stack. But again 3handed TPTK its a huge hand and if i put him on a draw i would call.

Originally posted by bah22
This 3bet shove looks a lot like a flush draw or maybe it is a monster draw. Did u have any reads about him? Cause this small donkbet it is really strange i would be suspicious. If i saw him playing sneaky and makes this strange bets with good cards(weak player do this very often) i will not committed my whole stack. But again 3handed TPTK its a huge hand and if i put him on a draw i would call.

+1

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.206% 34.66% 07.54% 13040 2838.00 { AsJs }
Hand 1: 57.794% 50.25% 07.54% 18904 2838.00 { JJ+, 99, AdKd, AdQd, AJs, AdTd, Ad9d, KdQd, KJs, AJo, KJo }

Without any info on the opponent i would say that is a suitable range, i have lncluded some marginal hands like ATd, A9d, KJo but also included hands like AKd AA, KK even though they probably don't play this way to make it balanced. With this much equity and that much invested you can't fold.

Lol, I don't think your range is fine ... A9 or KJ would probably not play vs pf 3bet if he's a decent player.

like i said with no information on the opponent i gave him a wide range and even included a slowplayed AKd,AA,KK,QQ. If you want to give him the tightest of tight range

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.309% 14.00% 31.31% 1247 2790.00 { AsJs }
Hand 1: 54.691% 23.38% 31.31% 2083 2790.00 { JJ, AdQd, AJs, KdQd, AJo

we have even better equity, i think we only need like 34% equity anyway.

Ok if you think so. I think we could agree on that it's a pretty close one and neither play can be too wrong.

with tptk in 3-bet pot your goal is getting all-in on the flop against player who can re-raise:
- draw
- top pair for value
- bluff
- turn his middle pp into bluff.

I would get stacked on taht board, since villain can´t really represent much