NL4 Am I applying the concept of pot-commitment correctly?

I would just check behind the turn with the straight draw against 2 players. I doubt they will ever fold if you bet and you have only 6 clean outs for a straight. The river is as played standard, but it’s good to remove the outcome of the hand next time or put it in a spoiler.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I would make it bigger preflop, like 4 or 4.5BB
This flop connects way better to their range than yours so not cbetting vs two seems oke to me.
You stab at the pot OTT when it's checked around twice. Often a great action ( so I've been told hahhaha, inside joke), but you get a raise and to me this would be an easy fold. You have nothing. You have to pay 0.24 for a pot that is capped to $1.59 if you hit. You only have 3 J's as clean outs (J spades could complete a flushdraw) and if your overcards hit, you will not be too happy either so way too few outs to call imo.

You are not potcommitted after your bet OTT. You only have 36ct invested and your eff stack is 2.19. not even close to being commited.

this has nothing to do with pot commitment.
if i see it correctly, you have to call $0.24 for a pot that's going to be $1.34. that's about 18% pot odds.

so, as far as hitting your straight is concerned, call for odds (the stacks involved do not matter at all).
the only issue is how much you should discount for the opponent having JT/flushdraws, which could give you reversed implieds.

O darn, SDK is right ofcourse. you have some outs for the lower straight too. They are not totally clean thou.

But...still a fold to me

Originally posted by TurokRider
I would make it bigger preflop, like 4 or 4.5BB
This flop connects way better to their range than yours so not cbetting vs two seems oke to me.
You stab at the pot OTT when it's checked around twice. Often a great action ( so I've been told hahhaha, inside joke), but you get a raise and to me this would be an easy fold. You have nothing. You have to pay 0.24 for a pot that is capped to $1.59 if you hit. You only have 3 J's as clean outs (J spades could complete a flushdraw) and if your overcards hit, you will not be too happy either so way too few outs to call imo.

You are not potcommitted after your bet OTT. You only have 36ct invested and your eff stack is 2.19. not even close to being commited.

If he hits a 6 he gets a straight as well

It looks like you have find out that already, but for 24c more it’s tough for me to fold the turn.

Originally posted by SDK1987
If he hits a 6 he gets a straight as well

Yh, my bad

As is often said on this forum about microstake check raises: it’s generally not a bluff and is usually for value, so he probably has the straight. When you assume that, you now have 4 outs and you don’t have the odds to call (you have 8.7% equity and need 21.8% equity for a call).

EDIT: He could have 56, I guess, so then a 6 gives you a better straight. I think that still doesn’t give enough equity for a call, though.

Pot commitment means that you know you are probably beat but you have enough equity to call (in other words, you would fold too much equity).

Like a situation where on the flop you have 35% equity and you bet as semibluff and opponent shoves so that you need 30% equity to call.

Term "pot committed" is often used to justify a play where player just doesn't want to fold. Those who understand equities and EV's often just refer it as a correct play, +EV.

Thank you for the clarification on commitment. I see that the best move would've been to check and get the free card and adjust on the river. My semi-bluff on the turn just put me in a difficult situation that I didn't need to be in.

Wow so many posts here

My thoughts:
You can iso-raise pre flop a bit bigger (to 4bb).
OTF check is good.
OTT both of your villains check twice. This is a good indicator that they are most likely giving up. so my opinion is that you just improved your equity quite nicely and you should have good fold equity also. For me this would be a bet.
VS that min check raise you can consider folding. Those are often too value heavy. If you get 18% pot odds as Tomaloc calculated above, it is close if you can call with your potential dirty outs.