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villijmeen99
Joined: 04.11.2016

I am midstack with 10BB, it's bubble and I'm on button. I have pretty good hand - QJs and on one hand at first I think it is pretty easy shove. But on other hand there is a shortstack with only 6BB on SB and a huge bigstack on BB with 29BB. As there wasn't a lot of action on this hand then the question is only one - is this a spot to shove hand like this or not?
Big stack is a regular, actually a quite good regular and his stats is VPIP 30.3 and PFR 20.4 (Idk if these means something here, probably not).
I thought for 15sec before shoving and that is actually the reason why I shoved, because the BB was regular and if he is good one then he knows that it's good for him if there is one very short stack and one midstack, because he can push around almost with any 2 and easily chip up from stealing blinds. Basically I thought that he will call with only strong hands, where he is way ahead of my pushing range. Or maybe I am wrong with my thoughts in this situation and I should folded?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 1.5 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 25 Ante (3 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Hero (Button) (t2,092)
SB (t1,173)
BB (t5,735)

Hero's M: 5.58

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, J
Hero raises to t2,067 (All-In), 1 fold, BB calls t1,867

Flop: (t4,309) 8, 6, A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t4,309) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t4,309) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t4,309

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had Q, J (two pair, Jacks and eights).
BB had A, 4 (two pair, Aces and eights).
Outcome: BB won t4,309


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011

Your objective as the second stack should be to avoid confrontation with the big stack and get ITM. I think you can find a fold in this spot.
You should w8 for an opportunity to put pressure when you are left only vs the short stack or just w8 for them to collide.


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abelhans87
Joined: 23.01.2018

Nash ICM calculator of Holdemresources.net says you can shove here: 22+ A2s+ A7o+ A5o K9s+ KTo+ Q9s+ QJo J9s+ T9s. You can use this calulater for free on there website.

Based on the result the bigstack calls too light here.


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nutural
Joined: 21.09.2011

definitely in a vacuum this is a +EV push and a lot of players seem to call with any Ax.
In a way it makes more sense from his side to call a bit lighter than nash (he has the ability to fail once) , so we should be pushing a bit tighter.

For a few hands I would try to see the dynamics of how the shortstack behaves as a shortstack and how the chip lead behaves as a chip lead.
The name of the game is adjusting. But also pushing according to nash at least ensures that there are no big leaks.


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villijmeen99
Joined: 04.11.2016

Thanks guys for answers!
However I am pretty sure I made a mistake on this one as SB was playing too tight on bubble and was slowly blinding out. I could wait for better spot and also should tighter push into bigstack. Still not sure what could be the best play if for example shortstack could be a regular who knows how to play on bubble, I guess then it would be a good push depending on Nash.

Also I was a little bit suprised when saw him calling with A4o, I think thats a bit loose and Nash agrees with me.


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