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QQ best post flop play?

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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

That's why I was playing my hand to make feel week post flop. But maybe not best flop the slow play, drawheavy, but 3bet pot usually enough. River i know better play check/call, but i don't think he has flush, because i have Qc and flop AC. And i make win maximum value.

Opponent stats, 2k hands: 17/13, 3bet 6.9, 3bet call 61%, wonsd 57%.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $5.20 (104 bb)
Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
MP1: $6.43 (128.6 bb)
MP2: $1.73 (34.6 bb)
MP3: $5.68 (113.6 bb)
CO: $7.58 (151.6 bb)
BTN: $7.88 (157.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♣: Q♠:
2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.14, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.54, MP3 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.10) 6♣: Q♥: A♣: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, MP3 calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.70) 5♣: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.82, MP3 calls $0.82

River: ($3.34) 4♦: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.13, MP3 raises to $4.02 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.21 and is all-in

Results:

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$10.02 pot ($0.42 rake)
Final Board: 6♣: Q♥: A♣: 5♣: 4♦:
Hero showed Q♣: Q♠: and lost (-$5 net)
MP3 showed J♣: T♣: and won $9.60 ($4.60 net)


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pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

Bet higher flop and turn to set up all in for river. Betting small on flop doenst achieve much if he has an ace or flush draw he isnt folding anyway and all other hands he folds also to 0.30 cent bet.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yea I agree that the sizings should be adjusted. A bit bigger OTF and then I would ship it OTR.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Thanks, but unfortunatelly i bet about 3/4 pot, i pretty sure he called and result as same.


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pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

Originally posted by ToddBrunson
Thanks, but unfortunatelly i bet about 3/4 pot, i pretty sure he called and result as same.

No no, of course he is never folding and this time the result is same, but its more about that on long run you get paid more when he missed of he has a naked ace...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Results do not matter. It would be a lot better to bet bigger OTF and OTT and then have a comfortable sized shove OTR than bet small OTF, let him realize his equity cheaply and then go broke OTR.

It is true that since he had that exact hand, the results would probably have been the same. But you have to think about how your strategy will affect things on the long run against his whole possible range.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Not matter? I lost today almost 50 dollar and long run maybe must 6000 years...


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pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

Good or bad play isnt result oriented: you could play well and still loose money, thats poker.
Actually when you have the losing streak it is even more important to make good plays and in this case making bigger bets.
If he gonna mis his flush he pays you almost $ 2,7 till river. Play this way 10x times and you have $30 back.
If you add to his range Ax or 2 pairs you wil win more, and dont forget the times you gonna make your full house on river.

You re getting all the money any way so its better him to pay you more when he misses, right??


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Ok, so if i played well but i lose and lose again, suppose about 1000 dollars i playing over and over again and i hope rng sometimes no will ruin to me. I understand what you say and probably you have right, but i lose and lose again really disappointed. And if i had a monster he usually folded post flop or at least turn.

What do you think, what is the range in full ring must iso pre flop 2 or more limps oop or ip? OOP KJs+ and A10s, 99++? And ip may 77++?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Having a bad run and losing over and over again is normal and it happens to everyone at some point. Poker players call that variance. You lost almost 50$ so that is almost 10 stacks. During the last 300k hands or so, I have had 3 or 4 days where I have lost that much over just a couple of thousand hands. The most important thing is not to let these devastating losses affect us too much. Tilt is our worst enemy. Even good players will lose if they tilt often.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Yes, that's true. Yesterday i was felt i didn't get tilt, perhaps few hands probably played badly, but i didn't play to much hand, My stats 15/11, 3bet 3.7, wtsd 23 and wonsd 49%, agg 1.87 yesterday.


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