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Facing raise on flop with overpair

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hanusmarek
Joined: 10.05.2012

Hello,
I have no read on Villain.
What happened at the table is that I got scared and just kinda played it out after the flop thinking, that maybe on river he is bluffing with missed draws, Jx or w/e. My question is: should I shove on the flop? When he raises my cbet, he will probably have some FD, sets, Jx and possibly some overcards with backdoor flash aswell (Is this range correct?) and my guess is that he will call my shove with all of it, which means I should get money into the pot asap. What I don't know is whether my assumptions are atleast somehow correct?

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $4.68 (234 bb)
BB: $3.01 (150.5 bb)
UTG: $2.83 (141.5 bb)
MP: $2 (100 bb)
CO: $2.07 (103.5 bb)
BTN: $4.74 (237 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♣: Q♥:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.18, BB folds, CO calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.38) J♥: 6♥: 2♠: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.27, CO raises to $0.67, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.72) 9♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($1.72) 6♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.22, Hero calls $1.22

Results:

Spoiler

$4.16 pot ($0.15 rake)
Final Board: J♥: 6♥: 2♠: 9♠: 6♠:
Hero showed Q♣: Q♥: and lost (-$2.07 net)
CO showed 8♣: 6♣: and won $4.01 ($1.94 net)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Shoving flop isn’t to bad. There is a decent amount of draws he could raise with and with better pairs he would 4bet pre-flop with most of the time.

The river is close. You beat only a bluff and is folding most likely better against an unknown.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

If we take a look at CO 3bet calling range he could have JJ and sometimes 66. Because Jh and Qh are already known I would say the guy doesn't have that many flush draws. He actually shouldn't be raising much here.
If we shove OTF we just isolate ourselves against better hands. Thinking that he will stack off with TPTK and all of his draws and so on it a bit too optimistic.

I would just call OTF. And as played I would probably call OTR too. After the guy checks behind OTT it looks like he doesn't have a very strong hand. I think BDFDs that raised OTF should continue barreling OTT quite often when they improve to FD. So I don't think the river changes much.


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MrQNo
Joined: 30.09.2006

In the Beginner’s course you are taught: If you are in a 3bet pot with QQ+, AK, and you flop TP+, you have a monster, and you go broke asap. On NL2, and especially when facing a steal bet, there are no reasons to deviate.

It is correct that there are few hands that villain SHOULD raise here. But this in NL2, and all those fine reasons fail due to bad play of opponents. Max EV play ON NL2 WITHOUT READS is pushing QQ fast. On NL5, the number of braindeads is significantly lower, there i would indeed recommend a call otf.


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