QQ multiway cold 4bet

Joined: 03.12.2014

09.07.2018, 12:34 0

888 Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 101 BB (VPIP: 81.82, PFR: 45.45, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 45)
MP: 329.8 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 21.18, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 351)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 58.6 BB (VPIP: 26.92, PFR: 14.62, 3Bet Preflop: 5.77, Hands: 137)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 13.77, 3Bet Preflop: 5.83, Hands: 253)
Hero (BB): 145.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♠ Q♣

UTG raises to 3.4 BB, MP raises to 12.6 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 26 BB, UTG calls 22.6 BB, MP raises to 329.8 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

MP wins 78.4 BB

What do you guys think to this? Should I have folded/called MP 3bet instead of raise?
I definitely didn't want to call his 5bet shove as it appeared just too strong. Villain has quite solid stats so nothing was telling me a call would have been an EV+ move.

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Sunrise1912

Joined: 24.11.2009

Posts: 377

10.07.2018, 08:55 0

145bb effective, i think you can flat this 3bet and play psotflop. Yes, you would also invite UTG in a multiway but this means MP would be scared to bluff postflop vs 2 opponents and you still have the 3rd best starting hand.

Mb im folding the shove for 145 bb. otherwise, for 100bb i call i hope he has AK

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Tonyx86

Joined: 28.03.2018

Posts: 142

10.07.2018, 23:15 0

But what is ur plan after calling this pre?

a) on a low board?
-> U normally have to go broke as well. Ur still loosing against KK/AA. Or are u still calling pre for set mining?

b) on a A/K high flop?
-> u probably fold against a bet. the hand is done and u saved some money (or get cbet bluffed by TT/JJ)

c) Q high board?
-> jackpot, but u wont get paid off by AK and sometimes also not by KK.

It´s hard to play QQ multiway on low limits. I prefer going broke preflop.

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TheLuckIsMy

Joined: 29.05.2018

Posts: 15

11.07.2018, 00:27 0

Hi

A) Not only broke AA/KK with this maniac on the hand , JJ/TT ,AJ include 99 in board low .
B) Call flop and look the turn, if bet I fold

C)Again , with maniac on the hand all is posible

If the Reg is good , he never broke preflop with AK for 150bb

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Tonyx86

Joined: 28.03.2018

Posts: 142

11.07.2018, 08:02 0

I'm not scared of UTG (maniac), but of the range of MP (TAG). I'm not willing to go broke with QQ against two with overpair QQ - not in NL5. For sure the TAG wont as well (AK).

Okay, calling a normal cbet after flatting his 3bet pre could be an option, but multiway i dont like it very much.

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