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RemiRem
RemiRem
Joined: 27.12.2009
Posts: 79
24.09.2018, 17:39

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 171.5 BB (VPIP: 12.59, PFR: 10.54, 3Bet Preflop: 6.19, Hands: 299)
BB: 80 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
UTG+1: 155 BB (VPIP: 17.62, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 263)
MP: 189 BB (VPIP: 11.46, PFR: 7.81, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 195)
MP+1: 108.5 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP+2: 201 BB (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 17.95, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 40)
CO: 12 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ Q♦

Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 12.5 BB, Hero calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (25.5 BB, 2 players) J♣ 9♣ 4♠
BB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

Turn: (53.5 BB, 2 players) 2♠
BB bets 28 BB, Hero ?

Villan is unknown. Should I just stack off with overpair after calling 3bet preflop? Or 4bet/ fold? Its NL2 zoom, so 3bet from BB has quite narrow range i guess. AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK,AQ, AJs . AK, AQ would not bet turn here in most cases, what do you think?


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zetozinho
zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017
Posts: 1,470
24.09.2018, 18:17 +1

I think you do the correct play which calling IP pre-flop. If you 4bet here he's only continuing with the premiums and you don't want that. Besides, if he 5bets shoves you're probably folding.
You block a lot of the draws on that board (hands like KQ, QJ, QT, Q9). In a situation like this I'm raising the flop more often than I'm calling in order to avoid spots like this turn.

I agree that with the bet OTT you can pretty much rule out A high hands from his range. He's got either a set (JJ, 99) pocket pair (TT+), or TP (AJ).
It's a tough spot imo. If you want to continue here I think shoving is better.


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Tomaloc
Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
Posts: 6,772
25.09.2018, 01:04

this turn is great.
that said, this spot is just a guessing game on whether villain is wide/trigger happy (KK+, draws, Jx, overcards/relative trash) or just a standard micro full ring nit (KK+), i haven't played these games in a very long time so no clue. the fact that villain doesn't have a full stack might make us more inclined to call it off, but don't count on it.


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CucumbaMan
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Joined: 13.10.2017
Posts: 317
25.09.2018, 09:20

Yeah, I believe you should just stack off on this runout. Or at least that's what I would do.


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Sunrise1912
Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009
Posts: 377
25.09.2018, 15:12

Never played full ring but i think you cant fold QQ here, especially vs a non full stack guy.

If the tendencies at full ring are 3bets to be AA and KK only vs early opens you can fold but i doubt it


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MLima1984
MLima1984
Joined: 19.05.2015
Posts: 306
26.09.2018, 18:29

I think i would 4bet pre. do u guys think that would be too much?

Anyway, im 3beting OTF for sure and a call OTR is ok.

PS i just noticed its full ring so, maybe my line of thought isnt correct.


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