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greatpk
Joined: 04.05.2016

Pre flop pretty standard situation, I also think sizing was good here.
Flop comes out with 2 spades and an A. Firing a cbet to build the pot here, I want to keep all the Ax hands here and all the draws as well, so I am betting around 55% of the pot here. I think 55%-65% bet is fine at this spot.
Turn comes a Q of spades, now the flush is there, also AQ beats me as well now so I choose to check/call the turn. River comes another Q and I check/fold here, simply because I just don't see any hand that I would beat but a pure bluff. Flush got there, AQ now has a FH, sets has a FH as well.

My question is not about folding the river, because its an obvious check/fold spot. I think what would be the best line in this situation OTT? check/calling or bet/folding? Personally I think this is a check/call spot, I don't see a fold here just yet, because he could have some bluffs in his range as well. For example Ax with a spade. But if we bet this spot, what kind of a bet would that be? AQ turn, flushes raise, sets calls as well. Do we even need to protect our hand from anything? Pretty much to me every single possible river card is a blank.

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $6.87 (137 bb)
MP: $7.97 (159 bb)
CO: $5.88 (118 bb)
BU: $6.29 (126 bb)
SB (Hero): $5.13 (103 bb)
BB: $17.67 (353 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A K
3 players fold, BTN raises to $0.12, Hero 3-bets to $0.55, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.43

Flop: ($1.15) A 5 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.65, BTN calls $0.65

Turn: ($2.45) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($5.45) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.59 (all-in), SB (Hero) folds

Total pot: $5.45 (Rake: $0.23)
BU wins $5.22


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greatpk
Joined: 04.05.2016

Some one please move this thread to hand discussion. My apologizes for posting it in the wrong section.
Thanks in advance!


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DjolusVicenus
Joined: 15.11.2009

I would bet fold turn... I would check-call if I had redraw on the flush with mine kicker... That is how I would play out the hand... Turn sizing would be around 40--50% of the pot...

So reasons?

I think hand is slightly too weak to be played check-defend on the turn oop, I understand that villain have a lot mad hands, but still you dont really know what he have...

so AK I would bet folding turn... If I had K of spade, I would consider mine hand a lot more stronger, and less vulnerable so its perfectly fine to be played check -defend ...on the river both hands are a fold off course...

I could be wrong 100% that is just how I would played out the hand... This is with assumption that we dont have any info about out villan...


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DjolusVicenus
Joined: 15.11.2009

For your question... I was getting 2 barrels calls with TT, JJ, AJ, AT, and when I barreled 2xtimes they usually had lower pair as redraw... and on river goes c-c

I saw a lot, a lot of stupid calls in 3 bet pots to mine 2 barrels that its insane. That is just me... Variance, luck, who knows...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by greatpk
Some one please move this thread to hand discussion. My apologizes for posting it in the wrong section.
Thanks in advance!

Done.

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I think overall you played the hand well. I might also bet/fold the turn because of the reasons DjolusVicenus mentioned but the bet sizing for me would be small. Something like 1/3 pot.
The turn situation was interesting so I checked it with Snowie too. It would actually check and I think it makes sense too. From Snowie we can also see that a smaller sizing has higher EV than a bigger one, but still it clearly prefers a check. However, now we have to remember that our villain is a NL5 player and I think it is quite possible that what DjolusVicenus said will happen. You could get some light calls OTT, you will not be raised very aggressively and OTR they are playing check behind. Those reasons could speak for a small bet.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I dont think this T is good b/f spot. We have fine hand to just xc. Also if u b this, u weaken ur x range (just to note). But the main reason is, that villain has much more flushes than you, I wouldnt bet this merged. River is a really good card because btn wont bluff much now, so often he will xb. Neither he has many Qx and u beat all Ax now. Vs shove its fold though. I think ppl will really shut down on this river with bluffs. All in all wp, but preflop sizing is too big (i suppose u 3b linear range), flop id go bigger to get some value.


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