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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Villain is unknow, can be folded against broke stack, nut flush draw and two overs?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $1.74 (34.8 bb)
BB: $1.15 (23 bb)
UTG+2: $3.08 (61.6 bb)
MP1: $7.29 (145.8 bb)
MP2: $21.55 (431 bb)
Hero (MP3): $5.18 (103.6 bb)
CO: $3.59 (71.8 bb)
BTN: $1.33 (26.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q♥ A♥
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, CO folds, BTN calls $0.12, SB folds, BB calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.50) 5♥ 7♦ 4♥ (4 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $1.21 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.21

Turn: ($2.92) T♣ (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($2.92) K♠ (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Results: $2.92 pot ($0.12 rake)
Final Board: 5♥ 7♦ 4♥ T♣ K♠
BB mucked and lost (-$0.12 net)
MP2 mucked and lost (-$0.12 net)
Hero showed Q♥ A♥ and lost (-$1.33 net)
BTN showed 6♥ 6♣ and won $2.80 ($1.47 net)

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Again nice game for villain, and of course i had got 50% but to many outs that i win. :f_biggrin::f_biggrin:


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

This is quite basic. You need a bit over 41% equity to make the call. If only your flush draw outs are alive, you have got about 36%, which is not enough. However, I think villain can sometimes ship some overpairs or weaker draws --> you could already be ahead and if not, A or Q could be your outs too.
I think the call is fine.

When I look at the hands you are posting, it looks like you have some mindset problems maybe? You had less than 50% equity so it is absolutely not weird that you lost this hand. However it can be solver pretty quickly that this call was profitable. If the same situation happens again and again for hundreds of hands, you will print money.

If you stop to think about the hands where you lost with 50% equity or lose KKvsAA pre, I'm worried that it might affect your play at the tables. Tilting is poker players worst enemy. I have used an example in my videos: if you lose one stack (100bb) every 10k hands just because of tilt, it will decrease your winrate 1bb/100.
Now you can think about this for a while. Think how much time it takes you to grind 10k hands. Then think how often you have small tilts and you spew a little bit of money. You can see how much it impacts your winrate.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Easy call, despite the overbet. His stack says it all.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

But sometimes is very hard to manage to tilt, if i lose pre flop or post flop all in 80-20, one day about 6-7 times. I guess is very disgusting. And yes, if i had two hands during one session affect my play, maybe next time i just call KK 3bet or i just call 2-3 street set, middle or bottom set. But i thinked set post flop always enough all in or stack off, and probably you right pre flop KK too.


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OrigamiPoker
Joined: 27.10.2018

Originally posted by ToddBrunson
But sometimes is very hard to manage to tilt, if i lose pre flop or post flop all in 80-20, one day about 6-7 times. I guess is very disgusting. And yes, if i had two hands during one session affect my play, maybe next time i just call KK 3bet or i just call 2-3 street set, middle or bottom set. But i thinked set post flop always enough all in or stack off, and probably you right pre flop KK too.

You have to remember when your an 80/20 favorite your meant to lose 20% of the time which is really quite common place when you think about it and just par of the course.You very likely don't remember the 80% of the times you won with those hands.Concentrate on making the correct decisions the results will take care of themselves.Would you be less or more concerned if you made an incorrect decision or bad play and managed to suckout and win the hand ?


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Pokamon
Joined: 15.04.2006

Originally posted by ToddBrunson
But sometimes is very hard to manage to tilt.

anyone can relate. still you should ask yourself if poker is for you.
i have read some of your recent threads here and i have seen you moan most of the time about variance.
this is the wrong place. so quit poker, or stop complaining. read your mental books, focus on strategy.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

That was a bit harsh but also quite true :f_biggrin: Mental game is super important for a poker player. It doesn't matter how well you know the strategies if you can then destroy winnings from playing 5 hours in just one hand where you lose control.
I had bad tilting problems and I had to read some mental game books. Then I realized that good mindset and discipline are crucial.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

You are right.

Yesterday morning this hand started, and next KK vs AA and lost too and after this hand i was not tilt and i won 4 buy in. This hand please only just write comment, who had similar in poker life. Top full house, second nuts. Can you folded?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $4.20 (84 bb)
BB: $4.82 (96.4 bb)
UTG+2: $10.98 (219.6 bb)
MP1: $6.22 (124.4 bb)
MP2: $4.64 (92.8 bb)
MP3: $7.40 (148 bb)
Hero (CO): $5.56 (111.2 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T♣ T♦
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47) 8♠ 9♠ 2♥ (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.30, MP1 folds

Turn: ($1.07) 9♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.07) T♥ (2 players)
BB bets $0.90, Hero raises to $5.11, BB calls $3.47 and is all-in

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Results: $9.81 pot ($0.41 rake)
Final Board: 8♠ 9♠ 2♥ 9♥ T♥
BB showed 9♣ 9♦ and won $9.40 ($4.58 net)
Hero showed T♣ T♦ and lost (-$4.82 net)


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Pokamon
Joined: 15.04.2006

all you have to do to impress a poker player is to tell him a bad beat story.


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