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Playing 5NL - Is it only tilt, too many tables or something else?

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gogo105
Joined: 27.03.2018

I want to improve so any feedback would be appreciated. Love poker and for sure I am a winner at small stakes NL2 and NL5 at least I was, but started multi tabling (up to 8-12 tables) and i cannot keep up ? Started challenge and this were results. Only 35K hands but still. https://imgur.com/c5l3gi1 https://imgur.com/smntc40 https://imgur.com/34piq5c


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Hey, cant load the screens (its illegible, my phone is too slow), but 8 tables is definitely too much for a beginner. Cut it at least to 6. Tbh the best would br 4 tabling imo and when you feel confidence add up to 6 tables, if u lose confidence go back to four. Multi tabling is definitely not the way until you get good at the game and even after that i think its better to play max explo which u cant when u mass table.

Think about every decision during the game and if you dont understand any showdown, mark the hand, go through it after the session. Be creative with ur lines. Dont misuse hud, realize you wont have sample for most of the stats.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

For the first 15k hands you had ascending red line and then boom it started to descend a lot. Did you change your strategy or what happened?

Overall VPIP/PFR 23.6/16.6 in 6max sounds a bit tight to me. You steal about 30% on SB and on BTN so that is low. Fold to steal stats are on the high side. Flop cbet is on the low side. Fold to flop cbet is high too.

So quick conclusions. Steal more, defend vs steals more, cbet more, defend vs cbets more.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

From my experience, VPIP of 23 is fine for the micros (or any other stake, I might add). Players are so loose that you end up tightening your game a little and that's fine.
But the gap between your VPIP and PFR is a little big. You should be playing something like 23/20. Call less OOP and even IP with marginal hands. Marginal calls at this stakes can kill your winrate due to rake and I've realized that too late.
For instance, you won't be exploited by folding in certain spots where you should be defending more often.
From my experience at the lower stakes, folding too much won't be as bad as calling too much.


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CptJokerFish
Joined: 06.06.2017

Originally posted by zetozinho
Players are so loose that you end up tightening your game a little and that's fine.

Then dont start to play nitty. Against some super loose fishys i have played IP with approximately 20% 3bet frequencie because the other Regs were to tight and they havent punished me for this so i was able to play a ton of hands heads up IP vs. a very bad player. That is the best that can happend so i have won a lot of money from the fish.


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TurokRider
Joined: 21.10.2011

Originally posted by la55i
For the first 15k hands you had ascending red line and then boom it started to descend a lot. Did you change your strategy or what happened?

To me, this is the key question. It looks like , when you started to play more tables, you became less aggressive and generally tightened up your (prolly postflop) game too much. The more tables you play, the more you loose focus on reads and table dynamics.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

I did not say you should play nitty. But get involved into a lot of pots against guys that dont have a fold button doesnt work for me.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by zetozinho
I did not say you should play nitty. But get involved into a lot of pots against guys that dont have a fold button doesnt work for me.

It should though. Don't care if they don't fold, you'll have value (and anyway it's not true they don't fold, see Lemon's video of population tendencies).
NL2 is the stake you can play with the loosest stats, and more or less every stake you move up you have to tighten up a little. There are less multiway pots you enter just for odds (and your odds decrease because players are less morons) and stuffs like that.

At NL2 people give their blinds away or don't defend well postflop.
People defend way less by 3betting pre and don't raise enough postflop either which makes you realize the equity of any of your hands way easier.
All this factors give you the most implied odds you could imagine and so you can play really lag at micros.
I think I play something like 40/30/10 at NL2 =)


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