QQ SB 3-bet pot vs a wet flop shove and a limping fish in the BB

I 3bet 5x blinds vs BTN, so I think you can 3bet bigger pre.
Flop cbet is way too big. I think people cbet too much OOP in 3bet pots, and this is 3 way. So I think check is ok.
I've learned that in this spots folding is totally ok. It is very connected, they can have all the sets, and you did cbet 3 way completely OOP. Lost count to the times I call it with overpairs and lost to sets.

The thing is you have decent odds and he can shove TT-JJ or broadways + FD or SD. Bet/folding this big here would be a waste. So don't be paranoid about a few sets (that he might not even raise the flop with) and just call and pray.

BTN is an aggressive reg, seems pretty solid. 3-betting pre to get value from his defense range, and maybe BB decides to shove behind since he is a short stack fish.

Just wanted to point out that this is SB vs BTN and you have QQ. It is obvious that you are 3betting so no need to write long reasoning for that. What type of villain BTN is or what BB might or might not do doesn't matter much to me in this case, it is always a 3bet.

I agree with the guys above, except I'm not sure if we can be folding after we make the flop bet so big. BB is probably going to go broke too. We can solve this by doing some calculations and using Equilab.

Originally posted by la55i

BTN is an aggressive reg, seems pretty solid. 3-betting pre to get value from his defense range, and maybe BB decides to shove behind since he is a short stack fish.

Just wanted to point out that this is SB vs BTN and you have QQ. It is obvious that you are 3betting so no need to write long reasoning for that. What type of villain BTN is or what BB might or might not do doesn't matter much to me in this case, it is always a 3bet.

Actually I quite like flatting against aggressive regs in this spot - usually you can get 2 streets of value when they flop mid pairs if you just c/x. Having the fish in the BB makes a difference, I really don'y want him cold-calling behind because it usually makes the reg shut down - that's why I wrote it down.

You shouldn't do that.
SB vs BTN 2.3bb raise, it is clear you are 3betting. Imo there is no other option.

You have a strong hand against a wide range. You want to make money, not peanuts. You don't want to let him see cheap cards, have control of the game and suck you out. Even if he would usually bet 2 streets with a weaker hand, that is just about as much as you will win when he calls your 3bet pre and gives up.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more it seems like a leak that will get me in trouble a lot