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There is no way around shoving here and it's kind of the problem with 4betting that big against a not full stacked.
At first I thought about this wrong so I need to edit this a bit ♦
The preflop 4bet is fine I would say, but the sizing is indeed on the larger side.
Normally I would consider a check OTF and then probably fold vs a half pot or larger bet from villain, but now we did 4bet quite large and we don't have much stacks left effectively.
I guess the shove makes sense but I'm really not thrilled about it.
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Folding 2 OC + GS when not even a PSB remains, come on ! ![]()
Go home la55i. You drunk.
And no him having weird hands doesn't make the situation worse for us. Please quit drinking.
I said normally. If villain was unknown with 100bb stack and we did 4bet to like 2.2 - 2.5x instead of 3x, would you still go with the shove?
I guess in my post above I agreed with the shove here and wasn't folding?
I just said I'm not so thrilled about it, because I don't think this will be a massively profitable spot for us.
With the weird hands I meant hands just like villain had here. We are an underdog against pocket pairs and if he stations those wide, it is not good for us.
I also wouldn't give too much value to the gutshot. If we think he will call wide with some Ax hands it doesn't actually improve our equity significantly, just increases the split %.
Oh, ok, so you weren't hallucinating at all. You were just talking about another spot that didn't happen instead of this one right under your big red nose. Forgive me then ! ![]()
Go home la55i. Still drunk.
4bet is huge. You commit yourself postflop basically. You have 3.71 left, the pot is 3.17.
2 overs and a gutshot should be enough to check-shove or insta shove. CO is commited, so any overpair probably shoves if you check. That said, I think you should bet yourself OTF and pray.