NL200: fishy play with KQ

_Anonymous_

10.04.2009, 17:46 0

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$235,00:///////;MP1$211,70:5 115/13/10/4,3/22/30/94/47;BU$96,10:09/44/11/0,2/50/-/-/0;[/tg]
1/2 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♦, Q♦
UTG2 folds, MP1 raises to $7,00, 3 folds, BU calls $7,00, Hero calls $6,00, BB folds.

Flop: ($23,00) 8♣, 9♣, K♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $17,00, BU calls $17,00, Hero calls $17,00.

Turn: ($74,00) 5♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $50,00, BU folds, Hero raises to $211,00 (All-In), MP1 calls $137,70 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.

River: ($449,40) 6♥ (2 players)

Final Pot: $449,40

MP1$211,70:5 115/13/10/4,3/22/30/94/47

Called cause guy is loose (those guys raise A7s and stuff from UTG). Also figured that he hasn't got nothing special and I'd just shove it.

4 replies

TheLastNail

Joined: 30.05.2008

Posts: 1,805

10.04.2009, 20:57 0

i dont like the play at all.. we never knew where we stood and put whole stack in danger just for medium str hand in r pot.. not very good

preflop> squeeze possible?! if they have good fold to 3bet vals.. good playablility vs BU, mp1 is folding a ton..

postflop> i much prefer b/f flop to get info and show strength, if getting called by bu it easy bet turn to get it in vs him.. if called by mp, it s more difficult, but since i think he would raise stronger to get cs bu out.. i might barell once more...

if both are just calling i just go for potcontrol on turn, bcs if i barell again.. and get calles.. both of em should have good odds to draw .. and i dont want to be committed on river..

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TwiceT

Joined: 15.07.2007

Posts: 4,451

10.04.2009, 21:09 0

Originally posted by TheLastNail
i dont like the play at all.. we never knew where we stood and put whole stack in danger just for medium str hand in r pot.. not very good

preflop> squeeze possible?! if they have good fold to 3bet vals.. good playablility vs BU, mp1 is folding a ton..

postflop> i much prefer b/f flop to get info and show strength, if getting called by bu it easy bet turn to get it in vs him.. if called by mp, it s more difficult, but since i think he would raise stronger to get cs bu out.. i might barell once more...

if both are just calling i just go for potcontrol on turn, bcs if i barell again.. and get calles.. both of em should have good odds to draw .. and i dont want to be committed on river..

totally agree

what do u generally think of just overbet shoving a blank turn if called by both after donking out flop? or maybe a c/r on the turn? c/c sucks and 3/4 bet and get called by both leads to a really bad river spot where always almost any draw hits.
blank = K, (Q), 2, 3, 4, 8, non :club:

generally, i hate these spots, oop sucks => squeeze/fold pre and play perfectly vs bu and very cautiously vs mp

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TheLastNail

Joined: 30.05.2008

Posts: 1,805

10.04.2009, 21:54 0

what do u generally think of just overbet shoving a blank turn if called by both after donking out flop? or maybe a c/r on the turn? c/c sucks and 3/4 bet and get called by both leads to a really bad river spot where always almost any draw hits.
blank = K, (Q), 2, 3, 4, 8, non

i like the idea of overbetting, if mp1 just calles on flop.. it might even scare him out of KA if for some reason not raised on flop ♦.. but then again.. are we even good vs BU? .. its not very clear, and even our overbet on turn is not even potsize for him to call.. but.. with some reads it might be good.. preferably tight image needed

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TribunCaesar

Joined: 29.04.2007

Posts: 5,548

11.04.2009, 04:11 0

Squeezing or fplding is the easiest way. But sometimes I am calling here as well. I play b/f on the flop. If called I play b/f on the turn again.

alternative: c/c flop, c/f turn because I expect him to check behind weaker hands and many draws.

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TribunCaesar

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