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ElleDriver
Joined: 25.08.2005

1) is it correct to give up here or is 3-betting and folding after a flop cap a better play?

BB [27.5|22.2|2.82|35.9]

PartyPoker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em (4 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♠, Q♦
Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) K♦, K♥, 3♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 7♣ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB.

2) better to fold the flop here despite the aggressive SB ?

SB [22.0|12.8|11.67|25.9]

PartyPoker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em (6 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is MP with T♦, T♣
1 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.00 SB) 4♥, J♣, A♥ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) J♠ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB.

3) better to check behind if the preflop aggressor may try to trap me ?

SB [20.0|12.5|2.42|38.1]

PartyPoker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em (4 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♥, K♥
2 folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 7♦, A♠, J♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.00 BB) 7♥ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.00 BB.

4) the 3-bet on the turn impressed me. should I rather cap ?

MP [21.9|13.7|1.88|30.4]

PartyPoker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em (6 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♣, A♠
1 folds, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 folds, MP caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.00 SB) J♦, 9♠, 2♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 3♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero raises, MP 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) J♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB.

5) unfortunately the CO did not raise to get rid of the SB. should I rather fold against the donkbet of the SB here ?

CO [22.7|14.5|1.92|32.6]
SB [44.9|10.1|2.73|36.1]

PartyPoker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em (6 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7♠, 7♦
2 folds, CO raises, 1 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 4♣, 5♣, 3♥ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 4♠ (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO folds, SB 3-bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB.


5 replies

1) 2 Options: a) call flop c/f turn
b) calldown

actualy i don't know what is better but i would prefer folding in this case.

2) The SB has 12 PFR so within his 3-betting range most hands will beat you - fold flop

3) good - no check behind here you are the aggressor with an A-board = easy bet.

4) No not against this guy, he seems more passive then aggressive.

5) I wanna see a showdown against this guy. So i just call the turn. Villain is aggressive so he will also sometimes 3bet his OESD or A5 or something like this. Plus you get perhaps an overcall from the CO.


1) i call this down, i believe BB is often bluffing here with nothing (maybe you have a read on him to do otherwise)

2) fold flop :)

3) is that a 3-bet preflop? (maybe you have the att. to steal blind stats?)

4) call 3-bet :)

5) calldown


ElleDriver
Joined: 25.08.2005

ciRith

3) you are right. This 3-bet was very close......

thx a lot so far.


Korn
Joined: 14.01.2005

Originally posted by ElleDriver
ciRith

3) you are right. This 3-bet was very close......

thx a lot so far.

Nah, if you give SB the standard ORC Range, the 3-bet is easy :)


ElleDriver
Joined: 25.08.2005

Ohh..., how do I deserve this ?

thx for the support of master korn. :)

I think the different 3-betting charts are confusing some of us.

In the meantime I have three of them....

If you take a look at the 3-betting chart (which looks like the pokerstove output) the decision is much closer.