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AK in BB vs OR UTG

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modeob
Joined: 16.02.2008

Vs UTG OR i think we can play cc or 3bet/fold.

When his pay the 3bet hi is full of AK,AQ in this flop maybe we can play x/f and forgive that hand... a lot of AQ in his range.

I think in this spot his is not folding TT o JJ .... (22 .. 88 not in his range i supose, neithier AJ)... maybe the best line in this spot is check/fold

When he pays that second barrels his range is full of TT, JJ, QA ... and even if we shove in river ... he woldnt fold his AQ.

I think i played very wrong this hand... how do you think is correct to play AK in this spot? The player is a 36/36 in 14 hands.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $25.28 (101.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $48.88 (195.5 bb)
MP: $26.85 (107.4 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $30.85 (123.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K♥: A♦:
UTG raises to $0.75, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.60) 9♦: Q♠: 9♥: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, UTG calls $2.20

Turn: ($9) 3♥: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.30, UTG calls $4.30

River: ($17.60) 7♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Results:

Spoiler

$17.60 pot ($0.79 rake)
Final Board: 9♦: Q♠: 9♥: 3♥: 7♠:
Hero showed K♥: A♦: and lost (-$8.75 net)
UTG showed A♥: Q♦: and won $16.81 ($8.06 net)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

After the flop Cbet I would most likely give up. I doubt the 3♥: will help you to get him of hands he would call the flop with, because it's a blank and Q isn't folding here.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

Play is fine. Giving up after flop cbet is fine to.
Turn barrel might get some sticky TT-JJ, Ak, Aj to fold.
This is where I let my hud decide. Some players have a fold to fcbet of 20 and a fold t tcbet of 80..
Those I will second barrel. Fold to flop cbet of 50+ and unknowns, give it up after flop cbet.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

If you want to represent big pairs, don't use this line. It is better to triple barrel in this case. Turn check/call might be good too and then bomb river.
His mid pairs are never (almost) betting this river (at this stakes) after you double barrel, not even for thin value, he'll just check back as he has showdown value, in part because he won't float enough as a bluff too.
3bet pot, you playing OOP and bombing flop and turn, you must be damn sure you are behind when he calls turn. That said, this is the worst possible line .
Another possibility is too just check flop and bet turn or bet flop and check turn. Again, when you check and he probes turn you are most likely behind.


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modeob
Joined: 16.02.2008

Originally posted by marcvz
Play is fine. Giving up after flop cbet is fine to.
Turn barrel might get some sticky TT-JJ, Ak, Aj to fold.
This is where I let my hud decide. Some players have a fold to fcbet of 20 and a fold t tcbet of 80..
Those I will second barrel. Fold to flop cbet of 50+ and unknowns, give it up after flop cbet.

How many hands i need to see "fold cbet"? And "t fcbet"? (I play zoom)

thank you


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

Originally posted by modeob

Originally posted by marcvz
Play is fine. Giving up after flop cbet is fine to.
Turn barrel might get some sticky TT-JJ, Ak, Aj to fold.
This is where I let my hud decide. Some players have a fold to fcbet of 20 and a fold t tcbet of 80..
Those I will second barrel. Fold to flop cbet of 50+ and unknowns, give it up after flop cbet.

How many hands i need to see "fold cbet"? And "t fcbet"? (I play zoom)

thank you

Well, you need quiet a sample for those stats to be reliable..
For example, a player I have 580 hands with, has only 19 hands where a fold to flop cbet has been recorded and turn cbet even less of course.
So if you play zoom, it can take a lot of time to get a reliable sample size


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