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(FR) TPTK OTT vs shove OTR

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009
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Villan is unknown (keep in mind that PT didn't shown the following stats at that moment).
Questions below

This hand reminds me a bit of https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=485828

$0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players

MP+1: 71.2 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP+2: 135.4 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 111.2 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BTN: 191 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 6.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (BB): 113 BB
UTG: 163.8 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG+1: 227.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 167.6 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♠ K♠

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 13 BB, UTG calls 10 BB, MP calls 10 BB
Thoughts and questions:

Spoiler

I really hate play those 3bet pots, oop, against 2 players which usually happens when I squeeze from the blinds.
Most of the time, I'm pretty unsure about my hands strenght, OTF

Flop: (39.4 BB, 3 players) 8♣ 3♦ 8♦
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks
Thoughts and questions:

Spoiler

No reason to cbet this board, oop against 2 players, IMHO. I could be raise bluffed by any flush draw, pocket pair, worst AX and maybe random overcards.

Turn: (39.4 BB, 3 players) K♣
Hero bets 19.6 BB, fold, MP calls 19.6 BB
Thoughts and questions:

Spoiler

After that flop in check, I thought I probably had the best hand here

River: (78.6 BB, 2 players) 4♥
Hero checks, MP bets 81.6 BB, Hero calls 80.4 BB and is all-in
Thoughts and questions:

Spoiler

Ok. At this point I thought: let me give villain a chance to bluff. Any worst pair or Ax would have folded if I cbeted. An 8 would have raised me OTT or OTF, I thought.
But this shove OTR is horrible. Is this a clear fold? It didn't look like a value bet, but who knows?
Should I have played this straight forward instead, with no info?

Spoiler

MP shows 9♣ Q♣ (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 36%, Flop 28%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins 227.6 BB


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017
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Get used to 3bet pots, the more you climb the more you will have to manage those spots.
Pre nothing to say.
Flop mw it is always difficult, I dont mind check.
Turn you can check again because it is playing face up. What did you check OTF with and now you are betting?
River card changes nothing. The big bet does not make sense. What is he trying to represent? A8's? Should be raising turn to balance the bluffs.


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