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$5.50 PKO - KK vs raise & 3bet

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ILuvBeachVB
Joined: 17.06.2010

With 46bb, what's the play here?

If we 4bet to something like 50K and get called, then I assume we get it in on any flop....except what if there is an Ace?

I don't like calling here. So what about jam? If they both fold aren't we losing value?

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T1,500/T3,000/T500
Buy-in: $2.40+$2.50+$0.60 USD Hold'em No Limit
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8 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com: Poker HUD for Mac and Windows

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T250,346)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T145,596)
MP - MP (T273,748) 28/20/11/40/76 [VPIP/PFR/3b/WTS/#hands]
MP2 - MP2 (T198,502) 24/19/16/57/96
CO - CO (T68,112)
BTN - Hero (T141,191) 46bb
SB - SB (T97,061)
BB - BB (T125,887)

Preflop: (T8,500, 8 players) Hero is BTN with K♣ K♥
2 folds, MP raises to T7,500, MP2 raises to T19,800, 1 fold, Hero???

Spoiler

Hero raises to T140,691 (all-in), 4 folds, Uncalled bet of T120,891 returned to Hero

Total Pot: T55,600

Hero wins T55,600


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

raise 57,5k / shove any. If the players are bad.

greets

maniac


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AlexKockar
Joined: 20.04.2012

pushhh :))) PKOOO


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

In general when thinking about whatever to shove or make smaller raise I will think if it make sense to have range for smaller size. Here stack depth is bit too small to have 4bet-fold range. If we wanted to go for it sizing should be like bit over 40k but that would already be around 1/3 of our stack so we invest too much. I would say ok borderline is around 25% of stack.

So to me it's more of call or shove in this spot. Whatever we do will look strong though so open raiser will often end up calling because of great pot odds. Especially in KO where there is more implied value. Also it's questionable if we can widen our range by calling compared to shoving. As extra note if you do want to call something in spot like this I would then recommend to call with big pockets also for balance.

But imo it's just easiest and probably best to shove all hands you want to play here. If they do fold you get guaranteed win on sizable pot which is not that bad deal.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would shove as well. You need to invest more than 1/3 of your stack if you 4bet and that looks a lot stronger i think than if you shove what you did now.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Panduke
Joined: 08.08.2017

shove is right. cuz if you 3bet and get ace on flop you not gonna like that and you dont wanna let it go


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AlexKockar
Joined: 20.04.2012

only JAAaamm! :)))


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