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pguest
pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009
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01.08.2019, 22:53

Neither reads or stats.

$0.05 NL - Holdem - 7 players

BTN: 72 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
SB: 26 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 84.8 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
UTG+1: 62.4 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
MP: 99 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
CO: 211.4 BB (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♣ T♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, BTN calls 10 BB
Questions and thoughts:

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should I only call here vs unknown? At that moment, I thought ATs would be good enough even if villain called me, in position.

Flop: (24.4 BB, 2 players) 8♠ 6♥ T♥
Hero bets 17.4 BB, BTN raises to 60 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 42.6 BB
Questions and thoughts:

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Should I bet call my TPTK here? I thought from BU or CO villain's calling range could be a lot more than TT-QQ and AKs, AQs.

Turn: (144.4 BB, 2 players) Q♠

River: (144.4 BB, 2 players) 8♦

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BTN shows 6♠ 5♣ (Two Pair, Eights and Sixes)
(Pre 35%, Flop 22%, Turn 12%)
Hero wins 137.2 BB


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WaterDragon26
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Joined: 30.06.2019
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01.08.2019, 23:08 +1

Out of 15 hands, villain played 10, raising 5 times preflop... I think you made the right decision on all streets considering that it's NL5.


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semiramiRNMD
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Joined: 25.10.2009
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01.08.2019, 23:56 +1

Why so much PF? He has just 70 BB, you are OOP and you still need to hit the flop, you must fold vs 4-bet and you expect to be called. He is a fish but he will still have position on you and you will have no idea about his hand. The lesser stack to pot ratio the lesser mistakes the fish can make. I would 3-b to 5 or 5.5, or maybe just call. OTF and later it's obviousy standard, you are commited with TPTK.


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pguest
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02.08.2019, 06:03

Originally posted by semiramiRNMD
Why so much PF? He has just 70 BB, you are OOP and you still need to hit the flop, you must fold vs 4-bet and you expect to be called. He is a fish but he will still have position on you and you will have no idea about his hand. The lesser stack to pot ratio the lesser mistakes the fish can make. I would 3-b to 5 or 5.5, or maybe just call. OTF and later it's obviousy standard, you are commited with TPTK.

To be honest, I still don't quite get how SPR affects ranges and bet sizes and when I should bet large enough to reduce the SPR or small enough to keep it low.


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romanista06
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Joined: 03.10.2014
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02.08.2019, 14:38 +1

Situations like this, 3bet between 8-10bb. OTF, without information, it's standard


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