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[Closed] [SH - 0.25/0.5$] Two Hands

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Kreatief
Joined: 28.01.2006

Hello,

1.

Poker Stars Hold'em Limit (0.25/0.50) (5 handed) Poker Hands Quick View Tool

Preflop: Hero is BB with J♥ 4♦.
UTG calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.0 SB) 6♠ 4♠ J♠ (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, CO raises, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.0 BB) 2♦ (2 Players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (6.0 BB)5♥ (2 Players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 8.0 BB

I bet the turn, to avoid giving a freecard for a possible FD.
Was this correct? Any better play? Maybe c/c River?

2.

Poker Stars Hold'em Limit (0.25/0.50) (6 handed) Poker Hands Quick View Tool

Preflop: Hero is CO with K♥ K♦.
2 fold, Hero raises, 2 fold, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Flop: (8.4 SB) A♦ J♠ 4♠ (2 Players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.2 BB) 9♥ (2 Players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.2 BB)2♦ (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 8.2 BB

WA/WB. Calldown ok? Bet on the river, cause he checks?

Thanks!
DKT


3 replies

1) 3bet the Flop. Most of the time you have the best hand here. Put some pressure on your opponent. A lot of players will raise here with hands which contain an ace of :spade: or with hands like KJ, QJ...
And then like you said bet the turn so he can't take a freecard.

2) Sure, against unknown i like the calldown. And i also like the bet on the turn.

His 3bet could mean 2 different things, as long as we put him on the ORC ranges.:

a) a pocket pair
or
b) an Ace with a good kicker

he would propably bet his Ace again on the River. And c/c his pocket pairs. So i am a bit surpised he check folds on the river. So could be he was holding a hand like K♠Q♠.


Kreatief
Joined: 28.01.2006

Thanks Stefan,

to 1)

I definitely didnt want to give a freecard on the turn. I often saw the standard play: raise Flop, cb turn. This often happened when I played call flop raise turn with a strong hand against a lone opponent. (I had to change my tactic a bit)

So, this seemed to be a standard play. Otherwise he would hold a much better hand than me. Then, with a 3-Bet on the flop, he would have capped. If I then bet on the turn, I get a raise and the hand gets too expensive for me.

Therefor I decided to call the raise and bet on the turn.

1. If he holds a FD, he doesnt get a freecard
2. If he holds a much better hand than me, it doesnt get too expensive for me.

I am pretty sure, he would have capped the flop even if he holds a FD, cause this is a scary board, his foldequity will be much higher than on other boards.

This way, I nearly always have to pay 2BB on the flop and at least 2BB on the turn.

Is my assumption wrong?

DKT


Ok here we go:

only looking at flop and turn:

Condition1) We are behind against a set or a made Flush1

Your Line: Flop 1BB - Turn 2BB because most of the time he will raise here with a better hand. - So we will loose 3BB with your line!

My Line: 2BB Flop - 2BB Turn - We will losse 4BB when we cap the flop and bet the turn.

Condition2) We are ahaid on the flop!

Your Line: 2BB

My Line: 3-4BB depends on how often he raises the turn.

To make calculations easier lets say he won't raise us on the turn when we are ahead.

So and i think that we are more often ahead in this situation then we are behind.

Just a little calculation:
Lets assume Condition1 occurs 40% of the time and COndition2 60%
So 6 out of 10 times we are ahead.

My Line: Ahead: +18 BB (6*3) Behind: -16BB (4*4) = Total of +2BB EV

Your Line: Ahead: +12BB (6*2) Behind: -12BB (3*4) = Total of +/- 0 BB EV

And in general we are more then 60% of the time ahead on the flop.

And so i think i really want to make the hand expensive for him. Your line is only better when we are behind more then 50% of the time.

i hope i didn't make some calculation mistakes.

Best regards,
Stefan