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Call the shove?

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LacsapR
Joined: 14.07.2011

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $1.77 (35.4 bb)
BB: $5.60 (112 bb)
Hero (UTG): $8.30 (166 bb)
MP: $3.91 (78.2 bb)
CO: $21.52 (430.4 bb)
BTN: $1.59 (31.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K♦: Q♦:
Hero raises to $0.12, MP calls $0.12, CO calls $0.12, BTN raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.28, MP calls $0.28, CO calls $0.28

Standard openraise, there are a lot of callers - BTN squeezes and I'd normally call KQs here OOF. Does that change having 2 more callers behind us? Gives us even better odds but one of them might have trapped?!

Flop: ($1.67) 3♥: Q♥: 8♦: (4 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Flop comes good, I check/call

Turn: ($1.67) A♦: (4 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, BTN bets $1.19, Hero??

I don't like this turncard although it gives us the nut flash draw. I check and want to get another cheap card.
Villain shoves. I'm pretty sure he has an A. I thought every Q, every spade and maybe even a K would give me the winning hand. Maybe one of the other callers might even call as well which gives me even better odds.

Can we call?

Spoiler

Hero calls $1.19, 2 folds

River: ($4.05) 2♥: (2 players)

Results:$4.05 pot ($0.17 rake)
Final Board: 3♥: Q♥: 8♦: A♦: 2♥:
Hero showed K♦: Q♦: and lost (-$1.59 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$0.40 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$0.40 net)
BTN showed A♥: K♣: and won $3.88 ($2.29 net)


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

He likely has an ace, but not 2 pair, most likely AK, could be AJ too. Your FD has about 22% + few more for trips so likely 25%, you need 30% + rake so 32-33%, you don't have it so fold is the right move. And you have players behind that might reshove.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely raise 3x from UTG. Especially if you deal with calling stations you should raise more I think to build a nice pot. As played calling a 3bet out of position is tricky. Espcially against a short stack when the impied odds are bad.

Flop is a donk lead a decent option multi way for thin value and protection, but check/raising isn't not a bad idea against a short stack 3better, but didn't work out this time.

On turn I would fold against the shove. You are always behind and you have only 9 clean outs for a flush that helps you win the hand on the river and is folding fine.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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LacsapR
Joined: 14.07.2011

well I don't really have donk spots in my play so far...might add some soon :)


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srichards
Joined: 26.11.2012

I suggest that you present hand histories in terms of Big Blinds instead of dollars. Thus, players of different stakes can more easily evaluate the hand. I would definitely ¾ or pot bet the Flop with Top Pair-Strong Kicker. There are two Hearts. A Villain may be on a flush draw. Also, there are other possible draws. I will not give Villains a free card on the Flop. Make them pay for their draw. It may be a shove Turn. But, it is less than a ¾ pot bet. Also, it is only 24 BB. There is no way that I am folding a Nut Flush draw which only cost me 24 BB. Hopefully, other players call. Thus, if you hit the River, you can consider Check/Raise trap. Or a modest bet to encourage a Villain call with his hand which is inferior to your Nuts. This hand potential is too big to fold. It is a gamble. Semi demonstrated that it is an improper Pot Odds call. Considering implied odds, it may be worth it. Also, it is so much fun to call this one.


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