[PLO4] two pair, nutflushdraw, inside nutstr8 draw: Was this right?

I would most likely stack off the turn with 2 pair and strong draws against most likely a maniac and after his big check/raise you are committed anyway if you only call.

Cheers,
SDK1987

you have showdownvalue and block the k high flushdraws but have no straightblocker so i suggest you check behind the turn

Originally posted by efkay
you have showdownvalue and block the k high flushdraws but have no straightblocker so i suggest you check behind the turn

Is it funny, because I think we will have this situation in the future more often. I agree with you for higher stakes, but on micro stakes I prefer the more aggressive line as Prim took it. As a rule of thumb - if the turn changes the board in HU I would bet with a pretty high frequency because it increases the fold equity most of the time. As always on micros villain don´t fight back often enough.

I actually wanted to get it in on flop, but Villain was passive. As he x/r turn it was clear for me that he hit some card which helped him. I counted my outs and saw that I have 9 outs for the nutflush plus every Q (2 outs) and probably a 3 (2 outs), plus every T (4 outs), so 14-17 outs. Too many outs to fold turn. As I put him on weak str8 or two pair, I counted 17 outs, so I counted the 3s as outs. So, I get more or less the right pot-odds?

I think turn is bad for us and we have option to check back and evaluate river. Villain is huge whale so at least he wont fold any better hand on turn. Some 9Txx, QJxx are fairly big portion of his range. Also this is sort of hand we kind of have to continue versus pot raise but its really not spot we want to be in. So check would make life easier and allow equity realization better. Pus we have some showdown value if turn and river goes to showdown. Winning some weaker two pairs. Villain can likely call quite a few weaker hands versus turn bet also so I suppose its not as back and white. I mean he called here with plain gutshot on flop so flush draw on turn is likely monster for him.

But I think just calling turn is still best and not shove. Q3 being best hand is really unlikely so unimproved folding river is likely best. Maybe bit trickier if we improve to top two with those pot odds. But I dont know if even this sort of player would think QJxx would be worth to raise turn.

ott u have an odds call with 13 outs against the nutstraight so it is wp to the turn.

but the river is a raise.

I think here Villain already went all in with his last chips on river.

ok then it is wp